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Update:

Case ID: 247751090 [2026-07-08 06:24:03] Case ID: 249451324 [2026-07-08 17:33:09] Case ID: 247759639 [2026-07-08 18:36:54] Case ID: 249540283 [2026-07-08 18:45:18] Case ID: laacur-20260708-N10 [2026-07-08 18:48:23] Case ID: 249542360 [2026-07-08 18:49:54] Case ID: 249542716 [2026-07-08 18:59:41]
Case ID: 249543071 [2026-07-08 18:59:49] Case ID: 249542931 [2026-07-08 19:06:59] Case ID: 249544938 [2026-07-08 23:23:19] Master Case ID: 249570170

All,of the following cases were filed JUST today alone

The further distribution of rape related materials is still persisting, and zoophilic media was sent by an anonymous user today

Please remove the comment section at once

Again, also a few more user testimonies on SAIC (https://perchance.org/safe-ai-chat) where the majority of the original inhabitants of AIC had fled

You in all seriousness, cannot merely look at this having witnessed the reported media itself; and dismiss it with a “but just close the tab!!!!!!” 🫩 ; just as you can’t claim this is apparently falsified with absolutely no external reporting / investigation on your end.

What’s going on in that chatroom is completely unacceptable, and it should, be every legal means, be removed

Missing the point award 🥇

Again, send a screenshot that clearly shows outright blockage of said materials and again, please provide evidence of recent moderation on the gen we’ve been debating about for the last day

Also, I wasn’t the first person to mention this either

You’re yet to prove anything relevant to current claims, frankly

Are you talking about British laws? Because we do not have that here in the US.

Please, use Google or reference my upper reply 🫩 Yes, we do

What are you even citing? Because you have yet to prove anything except show some chat logs, you can report the users. You have yet to prove that Perchance has committed or ignored any crime

I, explaining, and I’m not obligated to prove anything to you in anus ense. I’m only trying to explain the background, and the immense urgency of the issue at hand. My goal was, and is; to get the attention of the dev so I can forward all the available data to him.

Believe me, I’m interested in winning this pedantic internet flame war with another brick wall; but I’m legally liable if I directly distribute imagery or links to the imagery here; or at all.

Again, for the love of Christ, all reports only go to an automated AI system that shadowbans users for an extended period of time depending on the rate and frequency they’re reported at. Didn’t you, someone’s who’s claiming to be knowledgeable of the site, read what the developer themselves on this? Can you explain how this can legally ensure the material is being further hindered permanently besides a literal menial temporary ban? No, you can’t.

You’re failing to meet YOUR burden of proof now Prove that human moderation on the site has been present as of less than two years ago

Is what you claim. That content would be shared with filesharing links like catbox, why would any of you click links from anonymous strangers that you don’t know? You have no proof of any footage, you’re making claims at this point and honestly it seems like the possible scenario is that people are posting links from other websites that have that content in them, this is a problem that is inherent to chat rooms with anonymous users.

They use catbox + the file uploader for distribution usually, so you’re largely correct there. Why are you scrutinizing the adolescents clicking the links, and not the people literally actively distributing them? I do, and like I said earlier, the Case ID from the NCMEC was given; in what world is this a lack of proof? You’re circlejerking back to the SAME arguments, and you’re yet to falsify any of my own. I do have extensive evidence of csm exchanges in literally designated chat rooms; and it’s a mix of both, frankly. I’ve seen people post both AI generated csm and export CSM from elsewhere onto the comment section itself.

Yes, as it is a problem; so is it an immense legal risk, unless you have an alternative which is active moderation; the only viable option is to remove the comments on that specific gen altogether.

***>Any internet service provider or website operator who obtains knowledge of facts or circumstances involving CSAM must immediately report it to the National Center for Missing & Exploited Children (NCMEC). ***- 18 U.S.C. § 2258A

So yes, you do have something like that in America. It’s obvious you have little legal knowledge

~I am laser focused on the content on the Perchance website, I am not referring to what anonymous strangers are linking in the chatrooms. There are safer options to find friends than anonymous chatrooms. There are a multitude of websites where the users are tracked by accounts and can be perma banned and this website is not an account based website and all of you in the chatrooms have full knowledge that you are talking with anonymous strangers who at most can get ISP banned and you take that risk.~

And I understand that; but there again, I’ve absolutely met the harden of proof requirements. I’m failing to see your astute mental blockage, what users exchange anonymous or not on the platform; is CSM, and it’s because they link it and exchange it so frequently, that brings severe let’s, issue. Well no shit! What makes you think that any teenager present on the site would tale the alternative, though? As is, we have a safer versions we are already struggling to get everyone aboard too

Section 230 also explicitly does not apply to federal criminal law. A platform owner who is notified of systematic CSAM or grooming behavior in their public chatrooms and actively chooses to ignore it can face severe federal criminal liability for facilitating or harboring illicit content

Dismissing a formal federal tracking case as "baseless" because the forum users themselves can't see the underlying backend database shows a total ignorance of how cyber-crime investigations function 🫩

I’ve tested the upload filter and had images blocked, so, you are in fact lying again. You do not understand how the website functions, that’s obvious. There is a NSFW warning but there is also an upload filter, it will even block uploaded text content at times

This, is a lie. Please, send a screenshot where the images you uploaded were rejected by the filter. Spend less time leveraging your “knowledge” on the site, and more time trying to reason with my own arguments.

Considering that you have failed to prove I have lied a number of times in this thread shows that you are not even trustworthy in general. I have chat logs, federal case files, and images I can send to the dev is the burden of proof is asked, yet again.

Just pray the dev sees this shit mate

Yes, it is again; entirely absent currently. As I’ve stated before, certain users like MCMG were perma banned a great while back, and there has been absolutely no action to perma ban users that are actively distributing illegal materials as of roughly ~2 or so years ago; up to now. No, there isn’t moderation, please again by all means; prove recent moderation of the site specifically.

Chatrooms themselves are this way, no one should click links in chatrooms, why would any of you go into a room full of anonymous users that you cannot hold accountable especially if they use VPNs? Why click on unknown catbox links? This is stupid behavior

I cannot agree more, and many others have pointed this out before you; but do you think this is even remotely practical for the average user (who’s likely a 12-16 yo) there? Absolutely not!

The same is true with VRchat or 4chan; neither one of those has been shut down yet. Perchance is not at fault for simply allowing chatrooms on their private website, they have a moderation system even if you don’t like it. That is no reason to lie about them and claim moderation is entirely absent. Avoid the chatrooms, enter at your own risk. The same advice was true with the first internet chatrooms created and it is still true now.

Under federal laws like the STRIKE Act and strict international regulations, platforms have zero immunity when it comes to child sexual abuse material (CSAM) or severe exploitation. A platform cannot legally contract out of criminal liability by telling users to "enter at their own risk." If illegal content is being facilitated or hosted, the platform is legally obligated to remove it, regardless of any disclaimers. If a platform’s moderation system routinely allows severe, systemic exploitation to occur without intervention, the system is functionally non-existent for those violations.

Courts increasingly view broken, unstaffed, or purely performative moderation systems as evidence of willful blindness or gross negligence. Private ownership does not grant a license to ignore federal crimes.

If a lock on a door is broken and anyone can walk in, saying "the building has no security" is an accurate description of reality, even if a broken lock technically physical exists.

• Pointing out that a platform is failing to police severe criminal behavior is protected whistleblowing and safety advocacy, not a "lie" against the developer.

Get out of the Wild West mentality, bystanding does nothing now

Merely not entering the chat doesn’t erase criminal liability, it doesn’t erase the nudes of these children being exchanged, and it surely doesn’t have any actual significance in the broader pursuit of legal justice.

Come on dude, you and me both know it won’t do anything to address the matter at hand

So, no material, no actual content, just chat rooms, that people can choose to enter, avoid, or leave. You can find similar people in chat rooms literally throughout the whole internet. Yes, people are reported and there is moderation contrary to your false claim.

Have you been paying attention to absolutely anything I’ve been saying? There are entire chat rooms literally filled with the exchange of child sexual material (CSM), child sexual abuse material (CSAM), and footage of other distasteful materials

If you searched this Lemmy forum you could find posts about that very subject. https://lemmy.world/post/49043595

“ I'm getting sick. Fourth shadowban.”

Which, again, draws back to my primary point

>To add, the automated system in question is again useless in this scenario, given that the bad actors constantly alternate IPs to continue further distribution

Keep in mind, that even if they don’t switch IPs, the shadowbans typically only last for a 3 day interval, allowing them to continue highly illegal activity

But according to you there is zero moderation and reports are therefore impossible. I’ll take your words and hold you to them

Yes, and I’ll absolutely stand firm in this. Hell, ask literally any present in the chatroom at any given time; or ask people who actually fled the original site for proper human moderation (You can find some of them here: https://perchance.org/safe-ai-chat)

If you make the claim that the website is one where people are sharing CSAM and all you have are some dodgy screenshots of chat messages, then no, you have no evidence. The chatters in these chatrooms are anonymous people and you could easily fabricate scenarios by sending these messages. Chatrooms are littered throughout the entirety of the internet and ever since they were created children were warned not to join them. The same is true with VRchat. Are you going to try to shut VRchat down as well?

I, again, have a physical federal case with the NCMEC; I’ve sent the ID above. That isn’t the only evidence we have. Like I said earlier, multiple users there catalogue clips, direct screenshots, and occasionally report the materials to accredited law agencies in ‘exposed’ channels.

For example, X gets exposed for posting CSM Someone will make a channel called “xexposed” with direct clips, screenshots with censored links, and further background information; along with forcing a DNI rule that rarely ever works

If a creator allows their generator to become a loophole for creating illegal images, internet infrastructure providers (like domain registrars or web hosts) will pull the plug on the entire site to protect themselves from criminal prosecution; which is something entirely unique from Internet intermediaries like VR Chat / Reddit.

What the hell would I get out of fabricating ANY of the information? Where in the photo, do you think it’s fabricated specifically? Do you have evidence to support the notion of fabrication?

As I’ve stated before with the safe-ai-chat gen, you can inquire independently there about others personal experience with the comments of the old gen if you don’t tske my own word

Just because children are not supposed to be there, doesn’t mean they are not; hence why it’s advisable the gen gets deleted or the comments get removed entirely

Ignoring it and becoming a bystander just because the material is widespread is a nonsensical argument. Should the police merely halt cyber-activity given that scammers most likely will persist into the foreseeable future?

Perchance has chat rooms, moderation, and report functions. You want this to be an account based website and it is not that type of website as a privately owned website that is not a marketplace there is a certain degree of freedom that it has. The images uploaded are filtered, nsfw chat bots cannot be linked. Where is the CSAM that you claim is on the website

AIC has chatrooms, absolutely no moderation, and report functions that are unviable for actual resolution; that you supposedly claim is a proper substitution for human moderation.

I want the site itself to at least be minimally moderated, don’t put words in my mouth.

The images cannot be filtered, the upload module itself has no filter. The most it can do if it encountered anything nsfw, is put an 18+ emoji and remove the https://, which again only happened fairly recently.

I can’t genuinely redirect someone to the specific channel names, given that it’s legally risky, but I’d be more than happy to provide the information to an actual moderator / developer to prove my own point of exchange regarding both csm, csam, and more

The reports are literally just forwarded to an automated AI system that will ban their IP if given enough reported, as I’ve said.

Sorry then, I’ll clarify, AIC has absolutely NO moderation I want you to provide evidence the gen has been actively moderated, given that this issue has been apparent since 2023 last time I checked; with users colloquially known as “Bathwater, “Noire,” and others taking lead in trying to report the materials.

To add, the automated system in question is again useless in this scenario, given that the bad actors constantly alternate IPs to continue further distribution

That obviously, only works to a certain extent and can’t ensure the actual removal of said materials

Hence, in the scenario it even was removed, distribution on both public and private channels would exist for genuine trade / shock factor

It’s the biggest driver of why I want the site to be deleted

By site, to clarify, I mean AIC Not perchance collectively

This is a pretty good example of what I’m referencing The user present in the photo, with the tag KSTG was sent literal infant sexual assault material in their secret messages under the guise that is was a “dog picture”

The image was further circulated likely due to immaturity, and chaos obviously ensured

If you have any specific questions about this, most of the users on there actually keep quite a detailed log of offending users on something called “exposed channels” where they catalogue what others are doing an enforce a DNI social rule

How do they ban and unban people if they have no moderation?

Reporting from 5-6 unique IPs initiates a shadow ban upon the reported user for a time interval ranging from 3 days to 2 weeks on average, the issue is moderation from that specific gen is completely and utterly absent