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I recommend trying a smaller instance on piefed, it is better than Lemmy in a number of ways.

Seriously though, why we are clinging to continued federation is beyond me.

The fediverse is built on voluntary connections between communities. This post is literally a post to discuss and debate the issue. There is no active proposal or vote to defederate from lemmy.world, unless they defederate from one of the mutual anarchist instances first. It's basically saying "if you do this, it will be bad, so don't do it". I.e., using solidarity between communities to force the issue one way or another. In what way is that cowering or "trending towards fascism"? Defederation is built into the fediverse, and it is not like it is being used willy nilly here to silence people. At least not by any of the instances signed on to this flotilla. This is a response to that actually, more than anything.

When did I say anything about it being rapid or sudden change? Climate change is slow, and the effects are felt over decades. I am fully aware of this, and just because the effects are akin to boiling a frog, it does not mean that the ultimate effects will not be devastating.

I'm not a procrastinator, I'm just a temporarily embarrassed polymath.

Did you also call that the water would have a grapefruit flavoring option? Lmao.

If we keep burning oil fields and melting the Arctic which releases massive methane emissions, then we could be pretty fucked. Maybe not all non-microbial life, but we could be headed toward lizard world again.

That's a pretty over simplistic analogy. We didn't build the ecosystem, and we are not going to be rebuilding anything if it collapses. Whatever is left will survive and adapt, and maybe some species smarter than us will evolve in a few hundred million years that will actually learn how to properly live in their environment without destroying it. Or if some humans do survive, they will be able to rebuild society based on an understanding of ecological limits.

Yes, some have taken steps to move away from fossil fuels, but not all, and most scientists agree it is too late without negative emissions. I agree that it is largely driven by capitalism, and that in and of itself is a root cause of many problems with our species and should be done away with, but if it takes the entire world falling apart to make the realities undeniably apparent, then so be it. I'm not saying I want it to happen, just that that may be the only thing that can make the conditions for real lasting change.

That's even more of a case for it then. If the truth about climate destabilization is undeniable and happening in front of our eyes, maybe we will finally do something about it. Humans seem to not really give a shit about things until it directly affects their daily lives.

Yea, sure, by instigating the bombing of oil fields and refineries, instantly burning hundreds of millions of barrels of oil into the atmosphere. Definitely reducing emissions.....

Not every species is perfectly adapted to the environment forever. Multiple mass extinctions due to ecological destabilization have proven that.