Yglorba

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[–] Yglorba@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago)

Yeah, Napster was released in 1999 and was huge. Everyone in college in the early 00s was using file sharing networks to download stuff. It wasn't everyone but it was pretty big.

The real answer is that many people in this thread are personally pirating less because they are old; when you have the money, it's often just faster and easier to pay, and for games there are some genuine advantages to eg. owning a game on Steam so you can use cloud saves. Most piracy has always been teenagers and college students, since they often can't buy the stuff they want.

This is the same reason why, in the late 90's and early 00s, anime piracy in particular was huge - distribution barely existed for most shows and when it did it was wildly overpriced.

[–] Yglorba@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 2 weeks ago

I was going to say, 2007 as the start date? lol.

I was downloading games off Home of the Underdogs in the 90s, and by the late 90s downloading anime off of file sharing had started to get big.

[–] Yglorba@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 1 month ago (1 children)

A local AI model, by definition, can only tell you stuff that's in its training set. It's not going to be able to give you up-to-date info about piracy.

[–] Yglorba@lemmy.dbzer0.com 8 points 9 months ago

Nintendo is a special case. Their entire business model is based around their first-party games only being available on their systems. As a result, piracy is a much much bigger threat to their business model than it is to anyone else.

(Beyond that I feel that there's a cultural thing where the people calling the shots at Nintendo just hate piracy a lot more than most other companies - they've always been weirdly aggressive about it. But it's not totally irrational - they really depend hard on games like BotW only being available on their systems.)

[–] Yglorba@lemmy.dbzer0.com 6 points 9 months ago

As Gaben said, piracy is a service issue.

Streaming sites are a bigger issue because they're so easy to use, to the point where it's often easier to just view something on an illegal streaming site than to view it on Netflix. You can email your grandma a link to a torrent site and she can use it immediately. (I'd set her up with adblock first, ofc. But everyone should be using adblock.)

Meanwhile torrents, for people who aren't already set up to use them, are hard. You can't just email your grandma a link to The Pirate Bay.

[–] Yglorba@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 1 year ago

Personally I sort of wish absolutely everything was saved, with private things only being revealed after everyone involved is dead. It'd be a shame for anything to be lost forever. But doing that while preserving piracy for people who are still alive is hard.

[–] Yglorba@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Yeah but only for minor crimes like assault and murder. This is more serious!

[–] Yglorba@lemmy.dbzer0.com 4 points 2 years ago

Microsoft has always had a strange relationship with piracy. They'd obviously prefer everyone pay for their software, and will crack down on stuff that seriously threatens this - but at the same time, their real power and profit comes from their monopoly (well, came from their monopoly; things are weird now due to their failure to win the browser wars and mobile device markets.)

If the alternative is you using a competitor's software, they'd prefer that you pirate windows.

[–] Yglorba@lemmy.dbzer0.com 5 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

There is no way to be absolutely, 100% certain. Do not run pirated software on a machine that you absolutely could not afford to lose (ie. work machines). Back up important files.

That said, there's a lot you can do to reduce your risk:

  1. Only download from trusted sources; this is the real value of repackers. The megathread can help with this.

  2. GOG games have their executables signed by GOG (and don't need to be cracked, of course, because they're DRM free.) As long as you make sure they're legitimately signed they're 100% safe. Note: You are almost certainly not bothering to do this.

  3. If you're even slightly unsure about a file, you can upload it to a site like virustotal: https://www.virustotal.com/ - these sites are not magic. They run it through a bunch of antivirus software, which often relies on AI that will have false positives, and of course they can only recognize stuff that either fits the patterns in their AIs or has been seen before, so some stuff could slip through. Still, it's a good basic precaution. If only a few results come back positive, it could be a false positive; if a bunch of results do, or if any of the results are specific about what they think is wrong with it rather than vague machine learning results, then you probably shouldn't run your file.

  4. Sandboxes and virtual machines are the 99.99% safe way to run stuff if you're unsure. Remember that a virus or trojan won't necessarily be obvious when run, so to be really safe you'd have to run things there all the time. In truth, Sandboxie is lightweight enough that you could probably do it all the time without losing much beyond some mild annoyance.

  5. Running things on the Steam deck might help a little bit because most viruses aren't designed to operate on that environment and because, even if they are, there is less there for you to lose than on your desktop PC (except your Steam account, of course.) Proton, which it uses to run Windows games, is absolutely not designed for security or anything like that - it does give them access to your entire file system, not just the box it creates - but a normal windows virus designed without the Steam Deck or proton in mind would just fuck up the environment Proton created for it, accomplishing nothing. And, of course, as mentioned, you have the advantage that you have less important stuff on the Steam Deck to lose in the first place. So it is somewhat safer to run pirated windows games on the Steam Deck than it is elsewhere.

All of that said, if you're really worried, another solution is to emulate console games instead. That is pretty much 100% safe (absent some weird exploit in the emulator, which AFAIK has never happened.) A game running in an emulator can only do what the emulator lets it do, inside the box the emulator creates for it. Most PC games have Switch versions and Switch emulation is very very good, even if Nintendo has forced them to halt development - we'll see if that continues into the new Switch 2, but for now it's a very good option that is basically 100% secure.

[–] Yglorba@lemmy.dbzer0.com 5 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Honestly I disagree with the need for bittorrent and a VPN when downloading games, for several reasons:

  1. Very few game companies pursue the MPAA / RIAA strategy of monitoring torrents and sending letters to ISPs. It's not cost-efficient for most of them individually, and there isn't a centralized organization with that level of reach and power. Those things are something you have to worry about if you're downloading videos or music, less so games.

  2. For software specifically, you generally want to download them from trusted sites, and those use file sharing sites anyway. You don't need a VPN for them - the reason you need a VPN on BitTorrent is because anyone can slide into a torrent and see who's downloading there (or their IP address, anyway); this isn't true for a file sharing site. The effort it would take for an attacker to get information on who's downloading from a file sharing site isn't worth it, especially since most such sites would resist as much as possible (knowing that pirates are a big part of their audience and that becoming known for exposing them would destroy their reputation.)

  3. While some of those sites offer torrents, those tend to be small and, again, not generally worth the time of the few videogame companies who do focus on them.

That said if you're downloading really big-name AAA titles over bittorrent, your experience might be different.

But the main thing I would focus on in a guide is how to avoid viruses and trojans and the like. Those are the big risk for game piracy that isn't present when downloading videos and music (unless you really screw it up and download and run MOVIE.AVI.EXE or something.)

[–] Yglorba@lemmy.dbzer0.com 9 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Nintendo's real intent is doubtless to try and ensure that nobody ever makes a functional emulator for the upcoming Switch 2.

 

Gog-games has returned; if you missed it, they went private for a while, then announced they were coming back in a week. They seem to have come back early.

 

One thing that leaps out at me about this ruling is that courts understand the internet a lot better nowadays. A decade or so ago Sony would have probably gotten away with the argument that Cox profited from the users' piracy; nowadays judges themselves use the internet and are going to go "lolno, they probably would have been Cox customers anyway. It's not like anyone pays for internet connection solely to pirate. And in most areas people don't even have a choice of provider, so how is Cox profiting from this?"

 

They could have easily crammed the Steam Deck full of stuff to make it hard to use for piracy - locking down everything, making it usable only to play games you legitimately own, force you to go through who knows what hoops in order to play games on it. That's what Nintendo or Apple or most other companies do.

But they didn't, because they realized they didn't have to. It's 100% possible to put pirated games on the Steam Deck - in fact, it's as easy as it could reasonably be. You copy it over, you wire it up to Steam, if it's a non-Linux game you set it up with Proton or whatever else you want to use to run it, bam. You can now run it in Steam just as easily as a normal Steam game (usually.) If you want something similar to cloud saves you can even set up SyncThing for that.

But all of that is a lot of work, and after all that you still don't have automatic updates, and some games won't run this way for one reason or another even though they'll run if you own them (usually, I assume, because of Steam Deck specific tweaks or install stuff that are only used when you're running them on the Deck via the normal method.) Some of this you can work around but it's even more hoops.

Whereas if you own a game it's just push a button and play. They made legitimately owning a game more convenient than piracy, and they did it without relying on DRM or anything that restricts or annoys legitimate users at all - even if a game has a DRM-free GOG version, owning it on Steam will still make it easier to play on the Steam Deck.

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