Streamwave

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[–] Streamwave@feddit.uk -3 points 1 year ago (8 children)

Just to be clear then:

Are you claiming that the Jewish governing party, made up of Jewish individuals, in the Jewish State (Israel) are incapable of holding back their bloodlust to slaughter non-Jewish children on the basis that they see them as lesser than Jewish children?

Take a moment. Think about it. Because we both know that this is in fact what you have been claiming. And maybe you want to walk that back, and self-reflect, and think whether maybe you've gone wrong at some point in your justifiable attempt to seek justice for oppressed peoples.

[–] Streamwave@feddit.uk -3 points 1 year ago (3 children)

I think we can all agree that the Jews and only the Jews have the right to determine what that phrase, which they coined, meant to them.

[–] Streamwave@feddit.uk -5 points 1 year ago (5 children)

Let me give you the full sentence:

"Never again will the Jewish people put their safety and security in the hands of non-Jews."

Non-Jews were given a test with the Holocaust and we comprehensively failed.

From now on, the Jewish people will only ever trust themselves to protect them. Rightly so, in my view.

And yes, I do deny there's a genocide in Gaza. If they wanted to just eradicate them then this war would have been over many months ago.

[–] Streamwave@feddit.uk -5 points 1 year ago (7 children)

If I believed that Israel was a genocidal "regime" (by which you mean democratic government) I wouldn't be defending it.

[–] Streamwave@feddit.uk -5 points 1 year ago (3 children)

You don't know many Jewish people and the others have chosen not to interact with you.

My guess is that you said and did nothing for your Jewish neighbours and classmates and colleagues and friends on October 8th. I'm guessing you also said nothing when crowds gathered outside Sydney Opera House to chant "gas the Jews".

Jews have an intuitive sense of who would help them if the Holocaust happened again. People who didn't speak out in those days? They went on the "don't rely on them to hide us in their basement" list.

[–] Streamwave@feddit.uk -5 points 1 year ago (5 children)

I assume you're going to go through the next few years very confused why Jews are scared of you.

[–] Streamwave@feddit.uk -4 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (7 children)

https://lemmy.world/c/jewish doesn’t even appear in your screenshot for starters, so it’s obvious you’re not seeing a full list of results.

81 subscribers

Okay, cool, that's good to know.

What does /c/Jewish think about the idea of abolishing the State of Israel? Do they agree with you about antisemitism? Have you tried engaging with them about that?

But more importantly, Jewish people are under no obligation to make a Lemmy community and post about their religion, just as any one else isn’t. An absence of such community does not reflect an absence of followers.

It does in fact reflect an absence of followers. Jews do not feel welcome or safe among radical leftists, who tend to dominate Lemmy. They therefore stay away.

Also, here's a comparison:

You don't genuinely think that there's no problem here? Most Jews don't move from Reddit to Lemmy because Lemmy is dominated by left-wing people, and left-wing people are the current threat to Jews.

[–] Streamwave@feddit.uk -5 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (9 children)

Uhuh

What do you even mean by "support Israel"?

There are almost no Jews anywhere in the world who would oppose the existence of the State of Israel. As I just pointed out, an overwhelming majority of British and American Jews see Israel as a central part of their Jewish identity, have visited, have relatives there, and feel an emotional connection to it.

Naturei Karta are a tiny fringe minority. If you're thinking they represent some sort of larger phenomenon you're living in a bubble.

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