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cross-posted from: https://lemmy.world/post/27622066

And yet, unhitched from the menial task of transportation, the average horse today enjoys a far better quality of life than the average pre-car horse. Why? Horse girls. You see, now that the market demand for horses is no longer based on actual horsepower, horses can render the service of "just being themselves" for those who appreciate that most (in much more forgiving circumstances). In this way, horses truly are forever... and the real losers really are mankind. And its machines. In this essay, I will

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[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 days ago

"I don't need petrol, cause I'm on a horse! 🎶"

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KqvVi2C0oOg

[–] [email protected] 3 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Tbh, I'd love to get everywhere by donkey.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 days ago (1 children)

I hear mules have incredible range and versatility, but I do wonder if the hybridization has higher risk of certain illnesses.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 day ago

Yeah, I wonder. From what I read, they sound healthier overall, but maybe with a higher risk of hyperlipemia?

[–] [email protected] 5 points 3 days ago (1 children)

Fuck your Honda Civic, I've a horse outside!

[–] [email protected] 4 points 3 days ago (1 children)

He looks like Billie Piper after half an ounce of coke.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 3 days ago

That's the neat part, the horse's name IS Billie Piper

and he did have half an ounce of coke.

[–] [email protected] 24 points 4 days ago (2 children)
[–] [email protected] 14 points 4 days ago (2 children)
[–] [email protected] 6 points 4 days ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 5 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago)

Unicycles.

Pogo sticks.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 3 days ago

Feet are preferable when possible. However they don't work for some people, and they do give out at a shorter distance than most other modes.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 4 days ago

Indeed, cars are just a fad. Hopefully we move away from them as soon as possible.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 3 days ago

... I am not a big fan of horses either.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 3 days ago (1 children)

Which will break down first? A well maintained car or a well maintained horse?

[–] [email protected] 6 points 3 days ago

Cyberstuck vs draft horse I know which one I'm betting on

[–] [email protected] 9 points 4 days ago (1 children)

Horses do not exist to serve man.

[–] [email protected] -3 points 4 days ago (2 children)

It's questionable whether horses would still exist for any other purpose considering we created them and brought them around the world. The only untouched wild horse left in existence is Przewalski’s horse from Central Asia, and some reintroduced/invasive NA wild mustangs.

Without animal husbandry they would probably be about as rare as buffalo, currently only 500,000 and at one point only a confirmed 325 existed.

The way I see it, horses currently have it pretty good on average with wide spaces, very little work to do, and they tend to live full lives as they're not usually bred for meat. Probably happier than the average human.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 3 days ago (2 children)

That is not a justification for their abuse and subjugation. You wouldn't make that argument about an enslaved race of humans.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 3 days ago (1 children)

imagine someone killing a whole neighborhood and enslaving the survivors and when the resistance says "we don't exist to serve you" they replied "um actually you'd be dead without us"

[–] [email protected] -3 points 3 days ago (1 children)

Ah yes. The Horse Resistance.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

point missed, metaphors discovered. just don't overlook the dissonance in the fact that horses being incapable of organizing a resistance is another point against the ethics of enslaving them

[–] [email protected] 2 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago)

Horses are not human. They are entirely different beings from us which require our understanding and not just our empathy, if you imagine yourself living like a horse then you've failed the assignment.

I said they were probably happy having humans feed them, cloth them, clean up their shit, mani/pedi, brush them, and let them run around big open fields. That is justification.

Horses that Humans created are symbiotic.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago) (1 children)

The steady march of human-driven extinctions is a terrible argument for forcibly breeding a population into the hundreds of millions for the express purpose of manual labor until death. That's like reading I Have No Mouth And I Must Scream and being on the side of the malicious AI because it's keeping a half dozen people alive specifically to torture them. Also living things don't need a "purpose" merely to be alive, this is a capitalist delusion.

[–] [email protected] -5 points 3 days ago (2 children)

oh lmao, those capitalists abusing all the horses lol

[–] [email protected] 2 points 3 days ago (2 children)

Your point genuinely escapes me. I think you are just engaging in distraction, and I think it is you that you are trying to distract.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago)

it's exactly that. People cant handle the cognitive dissonance in the fact that modern treatment of domesticated animals is utterly unethical.

if you fully accept that you're contributing to the suffering of millions by participating in the meat and dairy industries, you have to be able to live with that. I understand that it's one of the shittier things i do. maybe I should hate myself but i dont, I'm human and complicated like everyone else, and I dont need to tell myself that all my actions are morally good. maybe one day ill quit various things, like murder and smoking

[–] [email protected] -1 points 3 days ago

I'm not engaging with you because you already lost all credibility.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 3 days ago

I guess more generally it is a hierarchical delusion, since it's hierarchy that demands purpose from it's subordinates, capitalism is just the specific hierarchy at play here.