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[–] [email protected] 58 points 6 days ago (1 children)

Kelcy Warren, the founder and CEO of Energy Transfer, said the main purpose of the lawsuit against Greenpeace was to “send a message” rather than to collect money. A major Trump supporter and the mastermind of the lawsuit, Warren once said activists “should be removed from the gene pool”.

Wow. What a piece of shit. Sounds like this CEO seriously needs some more green in his life. 🌱

[–] [email protected] 14 points 5 days ago (1 children)

Coincidentally Luigi wears green 🤭

[–] [email protected] 6 points 5 days ago

Does he?! Oh, what a strange coincidence. 😁

[–] [email protected] 24 points 6 days ago (1 children)

Curious why anyone is shocked? Some people haven’t been paying attention for the last… oh god it’s only been 2 months?

[–] [email protected] 15 points 6 days ago (1 children)

This has been happening for decades.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 4 days ago

Same as it always was 🎵

[–] [email protected] 7 points 5 days ago (1 children)

I believe there is a good chance it will be reversed on appeal and ultimately backfire against the Energy Transfer pipeline company.

Oh you sweet summer child....

[–] [email protected] 1 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago)

They then proceed to talk about the hearing in the Netherlands. So, in any case there is a chance Greenpeace will ultimately win.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 4 days ago

When legal protest is made impossible, illegal resistance is a necessity.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 5 days ago (1 children)

Holy shit. Is Greenpeace dead now?

They were the fucking conservative environmentalists too..

[–] [email protected] 5 points 5 days ago (1 children)

In the US, unless the outcome is changed as a result of an appeal, yes.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 5 days ago* (last edited 5 days ago) (1 children)

The article says Greenpeace will sue them in Europe for a bigger settlement.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 4 days ago

There's always a bigger ~~fish~~ court.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 6 days ago (4 children)
[–] [email protected] 13 points 5 days ago* (last edited 5 days ago) (1 children)

The Guardian doesn't have a paywall, it just shows an annoying message you can get past. At least my browser doesn't prevent me from seeing the article, so I'll copy the essence.

It was jurisdiction shopping by the oil company, trial errors by the court and manipulation of public opinion, third world oligarchy style. :(

  • The jury – the most sacred due process protection available to a defendant – was patently biased in favor of the company. Seven of the 11 people seated had ties to the fossil fuel industry. Some had admitted they could not be fair, but the judge seated them anyway. There was no Native American or person of color on the jury even though issues of Indigenous rights were central to the trial.
  • Morton county, where the trial was held and where many of the protests took place, voted 75% for Trump in the last election and has extensive ties to the fossil fuel industry. In a pre-trial survey, 97% of residents in the county said they could not be fair to Greenpeace. Yet the judge refused repeated requests by Greenpeace to move the case.
  • Energy Transfer ran a major television and online advertising campaign in the county lauding itself in the weeks leading up to the trial. A newspaper called Central ND News, with articles critical of the protests, was also sent to county residents; Greenpeace believed Energy Transfer might have been responsible for it. But the court refused to allow Greenpeace to use court discovery procedures to determine how this unethical campaign to taint the jury pool happened.
  • Adding to the absurdity, Greenpeace was blamed for the entire protest movement even though it played only a minimal role. The protests were led by the Standing Rock Sioux Tribe, on whose ancestral land the Dakota Access pipeline was being built. In fact, only six of the 100,000 people who came to the protests were from Greenpeace – yet Energy Transfer was able to convince the jury to hold the organization responsible for every dollar of supposed damages that occurred over seven months of protests.
  • Secrecy pervaded the proceedings. The court repeatedly refused to open a live stream to the public or to create and release transcripts. A request by media organizations (including the Wall Street Journal and the New York Times) to access the live stream was denied. Thousands of key documents were sealed and thus hidden from public scrutiny.
  • The judge, James Gion, made evidentiary decisions that gutted Greenpeace’s ability to mount a defense. For example, a major expert report showed that the pipeline had leaked roughly 1m gallons of drilling fluids into drinking water sources used by millions of people. Greenpeace lawyers needed the document to debunk the argument that the pipeline was safe, but the judge refused to let the organization use it.
  • The 35-page verdict form was confusing and the results seemed to prove the jury was in fact confused. It appears the exorbitant damages number was calculated by pulling numbers out of thin air – including millions for public relations expenses, private security costs, which were being paid anyway, and refinancing costs due to various banks withdrawing from the project once they learned about the protests. (Lobbying banks is also constitutionally protected advocacy.)
[–] [email protected] 3 points 5 days ago (1 children)

you can get past

Only by paying (hence paywall) or agreeing to tracking cookies.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 4 days ago

or agreeing to tracking cookies.

Now that I think of it - yes. I agree to them, but my browser is configured to discard them on leaving.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 5 days ago

The Guardian famously does not paywall content. They do ask for donations.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 5 days ago

Its not paywalled. Use Tor Browser