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it's like you believe you can tariff them expecting they won't do the same. Why do you believe the rest of the world is not going to retaliate and why do you believe America can prosper without the rest of the world?

What's the point of having a military alliance with countries you puts tariffs on? That's unfriendly to say the least.

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[–] RandomVideos@programming.dev -1 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago) (1 children)

I dont think this is the right website to ask this on. This became a post to hate on usa conservatives, not to genuinely answer the question

Edit: replaced us with usa to avoid confusion

[–] Goldholz@lemmy.blahaj.zone -1 points 9 months ago (5 children)

Are you sure you mean conservatives or do you just label fascists, reactionarys, nazis and anything that isnt "left" as "conservative?

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[–] Majorllama@lemmy.world -2 points 9 months ago (8 children)

Echo chamber problems lol.

Y'all have banned or bullied every single Republican or conservative person off this website.

You can't talk to people who aren't here.

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[–] surph_ninja@lemmy.world -4 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago) (64 children)

Honestly asking: what other way would anyone suggest to bring back outsourced manufacturing jobs?

I’ve always heard broad public support on both sides of the aisle for bringing back those jobs. Wasn’t that always going to make things more expensive?

ETA: the downvotes lead me to believe a lot of y’all are caught up in the nationalism of the arguments, and refuse to consider the logistics of what you want. That goes for both Red MAGA wanting recklessly applied tariffs, and Blue MAGA wanting to start WW3 without any existing domestic production. Neither of you are thinking shit through.

[–] humanspiral@lemmy.ca -1 points 9 months ago

Honestly asking: what other way would anyone suggest to bring back outsourced manufacturing jobs?

Currency rate between US/China to drop 3x or more. That is also solution to US debt. Doubling down on dead ender energy will create high cost of living, not just from climate related insurance rates, but for expensive manufacturing energy, and need to pay high wages just to have home affordability.

Destroying NA auto industry will destroy it instead of auto companies writing off investments in Canada/Mexico to reinvest in US declining market that is smaller and uncompetitive. Massive auto subsidies would be needed, but still no export markets. Auto sector trade with Canada has a US surplus, with Canadians have specialized skill in parts making.

Manufacturing only makes sense if there is export potential for good products. Boeing and Caterpillar and US weapons getting blacklisted by world is bad. UAW cheering on Trump NA tariffs won't be forgotten. Blacklisting US agriculture means their share of massive subsidies.

The future (present in China) of manufacturing is robotics. There are plenty of jobs in constructing factories, but those are cheaper in other countries, and the best robot/manufacturing companies are in China. Trump has hinted at welcoming Chinese FDI in US manufacturing, but that would be factory construction jobs more than significant permanent manual labour jobs. UAW won't love that move.

[–] BussyGyatt@feddit.org -5 points 9 months ago

He's out of line, but he's right.

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