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Western media before February of 2022 on Ukraine (Ukraine is full of Nazis), Western Media after February 2022 (Slava Ukraini!) (lemmy.ml)
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[–] [email protected] 15 points 1 month ago

Reporter: [REDACTED]
Reason: False info

Screenshots of Western media is false information… somehow.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (1 children)

All the proof you need that they're not nazi is that Trump doesn't support them...

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

Trump doesn't support them because he got his ego bruised when they wouldn't give him dirt on Biden and his "perfect phone call" got leaked to the press. Before this phone call, Trump did support them, which is why he even had aid to withhold as an extortion mechanism. Also, Trump wants Putin to be his buddy. Also, this is the same deal Biden put up months ago (with Ukraine having lost ground in the war since then), Trump is just far less cordial about it.

The US is always two-faced about its foreign policy, which is to pretend to be an ally for as long as it takes to get smaller nations into predatory deals at their weakest and forcing them to give up the very resources they would need to pay us back. This is what it looks like to be a vassal state for the US, which seems to be what Zelensky wanted from the jump if we look at the facts of the situation. As the saying goes; live by the sword, die by the sword.

Unfortunately the war has come far enough that to not accept this deal is to subject Ukranians to even more death and destruction at Russian hands. It's the only way out for Ukrainian sovereignty. Zelensky knows it. Trump knows it. Putin knows it.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (2 children)

Probably because white supremacy takes a back seat to full scale invasion and genocide

The existence of white supremacy and Nazism is only acceptable grounds for invading another country to Russia who coincidentally have way more Nazis and white supremacists than Ukraine does

...or did anyways. Pretty sure the ranks of Russian Nazis has since been greatly reduced by Ukraine's military

[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 month ago (1 children)

You can both recognise that the Russian invasion of Ukraine is not justified and that Ukraine has a neonazi problem (partly caused by the US who funded neo nazi groups in the Soviet Union to resist the evil commies). Western media is whitewashing actual neo nazi militias in Ukraine. That’s a seriously dangerous precedent, especially as neo nazis are gaining a lot of ground in the West.

[–] [email protected] -5 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (1 children)

Every country has a neo Nazi problem if they have a nonzero number of them

As far as I feel when Russia specifically is concerned, Patton was right.

#PATTON WAS RIGHT

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 month ago (1 children)

There’s different levels if neo nazi problems and Ukraine has a huge one. Even if you think the nazi’s are fighting the ‘good side’ in this war, they will use the opportunity to be racist and victimise minority groups. The US providing weapons to openly neo nazi Azov battalion really did not get the scrutiny it deserves.

[–] [email protected] -3 points 1 month ago (1 children)

The Azov Regiment has been a recurring theme of Russian propaganda

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Is ‘propaganda’ another word for facts you don’t like? All my information on Azov battalion comes from Western sources. As I said, they’re openly neo nazi’s.

[–] [email protected] -2 points 1 month ago (1 children)

What a farce

Azov was depoliticized when the militia group was absorbed into the national guard.

Compared to the full scale invasion and the threat of Russian genocide, dealing with the minority of Ukranian neo Nazis that do not represent the whole of Ukrainian people is waaaay down the list of priorities

People are so incredibly suspect when they think neo Nazis in Azov is a more pressing matter than the horrors of Bucha, also well documented by western sources

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (1 children)

‘Depoloticized’ means prosecuting the nazi’s right? Or does it just mean that the nazi’s are still there, still wear their nazi symbols on their uniforms but are just a little bit more silent about it? Again, think of the consequences of openly nazi’s fighting in a war and what it means for the minority groups who live there.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 month ago

Same as it is in the US

[–] [email protected] -1 points 1 month ago (1 children)

And then I get downvoted for saying this instance is full of propaganda.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 month ago

“Facts that I don’t like are propaganda” - You