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[–] Warl0k3@lemmy.world 130 points 2 years ago (6 children)

Bills must be paid by Wednesday, or else.

... or else what, exactly? There seems to be a whole lot of sternly worded judicial opinions, but can they actually do anything to enforce said decisions??

[–] just_another_person@lemmy.world 67 points 2 years ago (5 children)

Anyone involved with the legal response or not releasing these funds can be arrested and held in contempt of court. This would obviously apply to Trump lackeys, and not himself. Do this a couple dozen times, and his entire cabinet has nobody to enforce their bullshit.

[–] Skyrmir@lemmy.world 44 points 2 years ago

I'll believe it when one of them is in jail. More likely Trump would order US Marshalls not to arrest anyone working for the white house, and fire anyone that tried.

[–] octopus_ink@lemmy.ml 22 points 2 years ago (1 children)

That sounds like a great way to go, but if the past four years have taught me anything it's that I shouldn't expect much of anything in the way of lasting consequences or impediments for Republicans from our courts.

I'll get excited when there are some arrests.

[–] just_another_person@lemmy.world 8 points 2 years ago (2 children)

Have you noticed how stuck and stalled the Trump admin is right now? This is why. It's working. We're not even to the first court confrontation yet, which is due tomorrow. We need to see how far the judicitbranch is willing to go to issue punitive measures and enforce these things before we start crying that nothing is working.

This is the process in the US. It's worked pretty well against other bad actors, and we need to give it some time to play out as defined in due process before more drastic measures.

[–] octopus_ink@lemmy.ml 25 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (12 children)

Have you noticed how stuck and stalled the Trump admin is right now?

No, I have not.

Edited to add - https://www.project2025.observer/

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[–] Jhex@lemmy.world 4 points 2 years ago (2 children)

We need to see how far the judicitbranch is willing to go to issue punitive measures and enforce these things before we start crying that nothing is working.

Sorry to be skeptical bud but we got 4 years to prosecute Trump on his many many crimes when he was not protected by his King of America title and literally NOTHING happened to him...

You can sit and wait until the very last shred of the judicial systems shows you it has failed... by then 2 things would be true: 1) apparently you'll be convinced and 2) you won't have a country anymore

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[–] grue@lemmy.world 18 points 2 years ago (9 children)
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[–] Xanza@lemm.ee 12 points 2 years ago (1 children)

How the right will interpret this;

JUDGES HAVE TOO MUCH POWER! REWRITE THE CONSTITUTION!

[–] twistypencil@lemmy.world 2 points 2 years ago

I'm ok with that, they are full of shit anyways, so no matter what they say it will still be shit

[–] EndOfLine@lemm.ee 11 points 2 years ago (18 children)

Arrested by whom? Isn't it the executive branch that controls the enforcement of laws and judicial decisions?

Serious question. What power does the judiciary have to enforce their rulings.

[–] Natanael@infosec.pub 14 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Judges can deputize if necessary

[–] EndOfLine@lemm.ee 5 points 2 years ago

Thank you for the response.

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[–] blakenong@lemmings.world 37 points 2 years ago

Or else he will be asked again with a slightly more impatient tone.

[–] holdstrong@lemm.ee 36 points 2 years ago (2 children)

Start holding people in contempt of court I suppose. Not Trump but some of his lackeys. The real fireworks will be when Trump tells the U.S. Marshals to not enforce the order.

[–] Supervivens@lemmy.world 6 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 children)

Why would he need to do this? He’d just pardon them at that point and there’s literally no repercussions for him or anyone associated besides the almost impossibility of him being impeached. You can thank the Supreme Court for that.

[–] wagesj45@fedia.io 6 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Can you be pardoned for contempt of court?

[–] kibiz0r@midwest.social 2 points 2 years ago (1 children)

For criminal contempt, but not civil.

[–] WraithGear@lemmy.world 2 points 2 years ago

Assuming the rule of law is respected.

[–] kibiz0r@midwest.social 3 points 2 years ago

Yeeep.

For anyone wondering how this all works, this article lays it out: https://slate.com/news-and-politics/2025/02/trump-news-are-we-in-dictatorship-yet.html

[–] WoodScientist@sh.itjust.works 14 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Time to bring back the medieval Writ of Outlawry. Literally make them outside the protection of the law. The lawless do not deserve the protection of the law.

[–] Captainvaqina@sh.itjust.works 1 points 2 years ago

Right, why the fuck do laws matter anymore? I won't be bound by them if a rapist felon traitor nazi won't be.

[–] bleistift2@sopuli.xyz 6 points 2 years ago (1 children)

It’s time for Judge Dredd then.

Dunno, haven’t seen the movie.

[–] Nastybutler@lemmy.world 2 points 2 years ago (1 children)

The Judges of Dredd's universe were judge, jury, and executioner. We may need them to have that power to combat the current regime, but once they have that there's no going back.

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[–] SoftestSapphic@lemmy.world 4 points 2 years ago

So they're putting him in prison?

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