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    What y'all talking about? (mastodon.ml)
    submitted 10 months ago by drq@mastodon.ml to c/linuxmemes@lemmy.world
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    What y'all talking about?

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    [–] VinesNFluff@pawb.social 3 points 10 months ago (2 children)

    Not really

    Windows 7 was pretty, it was customisable, it was stable. And microshaft had yet to start fucking about with ads everywhere and invasive "features". Peak windows right there.

    XP was also pretty good for its time. At that point Linux and OSX had caught up and surpassed it in many ways, but it did what it had to without getting in the way.

    95 was an innovator if anything, ahead of pretty much anything else on desktop at the time, even if it DID fart and die whenever someone looked at it funny.

    It was always a proprietary creation by an anticompetitive tech megacorp, and therefore bad from THAT angle, but it didn't start being truly shite from a pure user experience angle until like. 8.

    [–] riodoro1@lemmy.world 1 points 10 months ago (1 children)

    Win 7 was ok but remember, it still came with three control panels, a fucking registry and 8bit palette drwatson icon in system32 along with gigabytes of absolutely useless shit.

    It was good for a windows, but it was still windows.

    [–] VinesNFluff@pawb.social 1 points 10 months ago

    Nothing wrong with the Registry

    It's a different way of handling things compared to how Linux (and most unixes) does it with 18391823 text files

    But it's a perfectly functional and sensible solution for storing system configurations.

    [–] Karyoplasma@discuss.tchncs.de 1 points 10 months ago

    I have an old rig for old games and I still have Win7 SP1 installed on that. It never gets updates as it's not connected to the internet. I know everything works there and thus it is now a time capsule. Never change a running system lol

    [–] Clbull@lemmy.world 2 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago)

    98SE, 2000, XP (Service Pack 3) and 7 were Windows at their peak.

    Windows 8 and 8.1 were screwed by Microsoft's insistence at creating a more mobile-friendly OS, when the Metro menu was just bad for the desktop user experience. A lot of disgruntled 8/8.1 users did flock to 10 because having the Start menu back was seen as a compromise to having forced telemetry tracking in your OS.

    As for Windows 11, it's getting super shit. Recall AI is being baked into the OS, which will effectively allow Microsoft to snoop and capture data on your computer activity. They claim to not capture sensitive info like bank details or credit card numbers, but I think that's been proven wrong.

    Also, 11 is hardly an upgrade feature-wise, yet requires a significantly beefier PC, and was released at a time when the world was still going through a significant semiconductor shortage.

    The only real hurdle for widespread Linux adoption is anti-cheat support. That, and either getting Linux versions of industry standard software (Microsoft 365, Adobe CS, 3DS Max, etc) or decent support through Wine/Proton.

    [–] Diplomjodler3@lemmy.world 0 points 10 months ago (2 children)

    No. Windows 7 was pretty good. Certainly a better desktop experience than Linux at the time (go on, roast me, I've got my flame proof undies on). Windows 10 started out pretty decent, until they ramped up the enshittification. I used Windows for over 30 years and never saw any reason to switch, although I've worked with Unix before Windows was even a thing. Only in the last couple of years did it really become unbearable. And I wouldn't even consider ever using Win11 on any personal machine.

    [–] shuro@friends.deko.cloud 1 points 10 months ago

    @Diplomjodler3 > I've worked with Unix before Windows was even a thing. Only in the last couple of years did it really become unbearable.

    Same story. Using Linux at home for three or four years. I tried it before and it was just... not very good. And yes, it was Microsoft who gave me the final push with their innovations.

    [–] mittorn@masturbated.one -1 points 10 months ago

    @Diplomjodler3 @drq win7 is shit, really shit. It renamed "My computer" to "Computer"...

    [–] SapphironZA@sh.itjust.works 0 points 10 months ago (1 children)

    You are likely not old enough to remember windows 2000. It had the NT kernel and did nothing more than expected. It got out of your way so you could do work.

    There have been some improvements over the years, but Microsoft's goals for windows changed after that, which is when enshitification started.

    [–] rottingleaf@lemmy.world 1 points 10 months ago

    XP was like 2K, but with fancy plastic appearance and some unneeded things.

    I have fond memories of reading Star Wars books in Notepad, in plain text (or RTF containing only text), in some font like Fixedsys, I think, black on white, at night. Ironically my eyesight didn't get much worse then.

    XP was nice enough.

    [–] lritter@mastodon.gamedev.place 0 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (1 children)

    @drq @linuxmemes some noses work better than others

    but calling windows shit is unfair. shit can still help plants grow. this is the kind of stuff you lock away in a mine forever and put a sign in front that says this is not a place of honor.

    [–] shuro@friends.deko.cloud 0 points 10 months ago (1 children)

    @lritter Yeah, looks like this is what it will take because nothing else works (or everything else is much worse that no amount of enshitification offsets it).

    Desktop OS marketshare for Jan 2025 with Windows taking 71.91%, OS X - 15% and the rest less than few percent each

    [–] lritter@mastodon.gamedev.place 0 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (1 children)

    @shuro security-wise, being the less popular one has its advantages.

    [–] shuro@friends.deko.cloud 1 points 10 months ago

    @lritter Yes, this works like that for everything in life.

    However it is also the problem. Criminals go for popular things because they go after people using them. Lesser interest to make viruses and exploits goes together with lesser interest to make software, drivers, hardware... Heck, I remember days when a lot of popular websites didn't work too well with anything except Internet Explorer - and it was real security nightmare at the same time with very real zero click exploits.