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[–] [email protected] 78 points 2 months ago (10 children)

The takeaway here is that calorie management is WAY easier on the eating/drinking side of the equation.

[–] [email protected] 23 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Yep, absolutely. When people start exercising and find out how few calories they've actually burned, the solution is always simple. It's much easier to limit the intake than burn it off later.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 month ago (1 children)

worth noting though that having more muscle mass does impact your daily energy expenditure

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[–] [email protected] 13 points 2 months ago (7 children)

Keep in mind that the more muscle you build, the more energy it takes to move that muscle therefore the more calories you'll burn during your activities through the day. It's not necessarily about the calories you burn during the workout but the aggregate impact downstream.

I could be wrong though I don't go to the gym lol.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 2 months ago

What you learn quickly is that the effects of calorie burning are real but way less than what people think. You can go destroy yourself running to the point you're half dead and that's gonna burn like 300 calories (like, one protein bar).

But yes on topic of the gym there's a few downstream effects, the bigger you get the more you eat to be on equilibrium. Also strength workouts keep your muscles "activated" for up to 48h during which you also burn a bit more calories at rest.

And finally of course there's the whole bulking/cutting thing, the basics is that basically, no matter how much you lift you're not gonna grow muscle unless you also have a calorie surplus in particular protein. During this process it's unavoidable to also put on fat so you bulk for a while (eat a lot+ workout a lot and improve personal records) then you cut (eat at deficit, maintenance workouts) so the fat recedes and etc.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 2 months ago

There's a saying among body builders. Abs are made in the kitchen.

You get strength in the gym.

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[–] [email protected] 3 points 2 months ago (2 children)

Calories out just need to exceed calories in. Diets help do that easier but it’s all the same principle

[–] [email protected] 9 points 2 months ago

Yeah, I just mean it's easier to manipulate the intake side of the equation. Burning a couple hundred calories is a lot of work; choosing not to drink a soda is easy.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 2 months ago

It’s important to note that “maintenance calories” are the vast majority of the energy you use on a daily basis. Exercise is just a small portion of the calories you burn.

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[–] [email protected] 33 points 2 months ago (10 children)

NGL when I commuted on train/subway, my fat ass would take the stairs nearly everytime.

Not because it's healthier, but because all the other fatasses on the already-too-narrow escalator have absolutely no concept of escalator etiquette, and I got a fucking train to catch because our subway ran 20 minutes late.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 month ago

I take the stairs because you can't take the escalator with a bike but I can easily carry my bike up the stairs. Well, at least when other people don't crowd around me then complain when they get smacked in the shin by a pedal. Like wtf did you think would happen? I am clearly carrying a bike and it's not exactly soft.

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[–] [email protected] 28 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

Nice. When I'm at the top I can treat myself to a shot of alcohol-free beer!
Or an M&M!

[–] [email protected] 28 points 2 months ago (7 children)

I'm gonna take. this opportunity to point out how stupid it is that 1 Calorie = 1kilocalorie. Actually my least favorite unit.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 2 months ago (1 children)

It took me a moment when I saw the pic to come to terms with the fact that, for as many times as I've seen kcal previously, I somehow never realized it was was short hand for kilocalories. 🤯

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[–] [email protected] 24 points 2 months ago (1 children)

So if I eat a bread while I'm taking the stairs, I'm even?

[–] [email protected] 8 points 2 months ago (1 children)

You may have to sprinkle chocolate chips on the bread first.

[–] [email protected] 16 points 2 months ago (3 children)

Not sure what bread or chocolate chips you are eating, but this isn't even remotely true

[–] [email protected] 12 points 2 months ago

If you eat only a couple of crumbs, that checks out. The OP didn't say how much of bread he's eating.

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[–] [email protected] 20 points 2 months ago (1 children)

And since a kilocalorie is what we would call a "calorie" from food, this shows precisely how you can't outrun a bad diet.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 2 months ago (1 children)

kcals are actually what we call Calories (note the uppercase letter). Most people don't know that and just use lowercase without thinking though.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 month ago (2 children)

So Calories = kilocalories =/= calories?

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[–] [email protected] 20 points 2 months ago (3 children)

That is not how much calories you burn btw. Its much less sadly.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 2 months ago

For the purposes of nutrition guidance, a kilocalorie and a Calorie are the same unit. Yes. It’s confusing.

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[–] [email protected] 16 points 2 months ago (4 children)

Are these numbers even remotely correct?

[–] [email protected] 27 points 2 months ago

I found this study which would suggest it's ballpark correct, depending on your weight and what you're carrying

[–] [email protected] 8 points 2 months ago

Something like 8 kCal for the equivalent of 3 floors seems about right.

Exercise doesn't consume that much energy compared to just running the body (unless you do immense amounts of it).

[–] [email protected] 3 points 2 months ago

Probably. A few calories per flight. We are pretty efficient creatures.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 month ago

Natural winner. I never lose

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