It’s time to abolish prisons.
this post was submitted on 27 Jan 2025
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Think that ship sailed, at least for a good long while, last november :(
Lol as if prison abolition could have been won at the ballot box in 2024
Seriously.. Getting really sick of this latest form of gaslighting "you'd have been fine under Kamala!!!11", "if only you people voted to stop fascism!!1". Yeah, no.
It's the height of fucking privilege and wilful ignorance to think fascism can be voted away, and combination "I don't care about or have paid any attention to your continued oppression" and "you're to blame for me being slightly uncomfortable right now, not the people openly trying to kill you". (E: the angry downvotes are a great demonstration of that last point especially, thanks!)
Fuck that.
Blahaj zone doesn't have downvotes, so if you're seeing replies to this community downvoted, it means they've most likely come from someone on your own instance who saw the post in "all" rather than being an angry downvotes from within this community.
Oh, sorry if I wasn't clear - the downvotes are clearly coming from (almost certainly) cis people who are more uncomfortable being confronted with the fact that they can't vote fascism away (and are happy to scapegoat those oppressed by it most), than they are with the ongoing oppression of trans people (which definitely didn't start with trump, and definitely wouldn't have stopped if Kamala had been elected).
Definitely wasn't thinking it was folks from within the community.
Hey, I see I'll preface this with: I saw this scrolling through All, I'm not from America so have no skin in the game, and for all intents and purposes you'd look at me and see a cis dude.
I see a lot of posts with opinions like this and really don't understand the point of view because I come from a totally different world. Before reading this (and like 100 other posts of the same nature) I would have said "y'all were stupid for not voting dems in. It was clear what republicans were going to do, and are doing. Voting against them was the only option."
I'm just trying to learn, not wanting to start shit, but what was the alternative here? From where I sit, again in another country altogether, y'all had two options and chose to either vote the shittiest, vote 3rd party (never going to win) or not at all. What's the purpose? I saw someone mention George Carlin talking about why he doesn't vote (says there's no point so he jerks off at home rather than jerk off by going to the polls and pretending he made a difference). I've seen a lot of "you can't expect me to vote for genocide" comments which I agree with. Idk, I guess I saw someone talking passionately and just wanted to understand what the plan was?
I'd really like to hear from someone with the point of view im asking about, as I said, I've already got an opinion based on where I'm from, I don't need someone telling me what others think and why they're wrong.
I’m not from America so have no skin in the game, and for all intents and purposes you’d look at me and see a cis dude.
as I said, I’ve already got an opinion based on where I’m from
And yet here you are, demanding emotional labour from people who very much do have skin in the game and are hurting and have better things to do than to spoon feed you information you've already admitted to not being open to hear.
Take this as a learning opportunity - open a search engine of your choice, and start doing your own work. The people you want to hear from have and continue to speak up (E: hell, you could even scroll maybe a page or two through my profile, as a person whose opinions you seem interested in, but not interested enough to lift a finger, and find plenty of places to get you started). You not wanting to make any effort to listen is a you problem, not a lack of available information problem.
I dont know how to respond to that to be honest.
I had a whole thing in my head of just asking what you felt so that I could hear you out. I have a different opinion but I change my mind on things frequently.
You posted two other things so I took that to mean A) you didn't mind talking about your opinion and B) might have wanted to say your peice. I wanted to hear what you had to say, why you felt the way you did. I can see you thought I was being disingenuous but I really meant that in good faith. I'm not great at this whole internet convo stuff so I'll take it as my bad but I really did just want to talk. Sorry.
I dont know how to respond to that to be honest.
Of course you don't since you're clearly incapable of shutting up and listening. That's literally all it takes.¯\_(ツ)_/¯
I wanted to hear what you had to say
Lmfao, prove it. I told you what I had to say, and you're clearly not interested in hearing it at all, nor in investing any of your own time or energy in to informing yourself.
Never mind who wholly inappropriate it is to even come on to a post like this in the first place expecting people to expend emotional labour on you.
So again - you not wanting to hear is a you problem, not an available information problem, and definitely not my problem or the problem of other trans and or otherwise marginalised people.
We don't owe you shit, if you actually care you do your own fucking work.
Oh, and also
lol former prosecutor Kamala was very pro-prison
Yes, but given that trump is actively seizing totalitarian control of our government, it could perhaps be argued that any attempt at prison abolition will be a teeny bit more difficult to get traction on than if, say, the country wasn't actively being destroyed around us.
Jfc. My heart breaks reading this. I cannot even begin to imagine the absolute terror these people are feeling right now.
We better get imagining unfortunately. They're just the softest easiest targets ATM. If we don't defend them. We'll deserve it when the fascists turn on everyone else. We all know the script. No excuses, no compromising with, no toleration of fascists.
This is horrifying but sadly not surprising, and only the beginning. So while it's good that their legal teams are trying their best to help, it feels like there isn't going to be much they can do (in terms of lawyering) to stop this.
I hope at least some local groups are organising direct action, and would be glad to send them some funds if anyone knows of any.