Programs are meant to be read by humans and only incidentally for computers to execute
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Maybe I'm an old fogey, but I usually hear more pushback against visual languages as being too finicky to actually create anything with and I usually advocate for a blending of them, like working in Godot and having nodes to organize behaviour but written scripts to implement it.
I really appreciate the talks from Bret Victor, like Inventing on Principle (https://youtu.be/PUv66718DII), where he makes some great points about what sorts of things our tooling, in addition to the language, could do to offload some of the cognitive load while coding. I think it's a great direction to be thinking, where it's feasible anyways.
Also, one reason folks new to programming at least struggle with text code is that they don't have the patterns built up. When you're experienced and look at a block of code, you usually don't see each keyword, you see the concept. You see a list comprehension in Python and instantly go "Oh it's a filter", or you see a nested loop and go "Oh it's doing a row/column traversal of a 2d matrix". A newbie just sees symbols and keywords and pieces each one together individually.
i don't think brainfuck or ook are actually meant for humans. more like against humans
Text code is overwhelming
Text is overwhelming (for me)
I like spaced out, low density information. I can process it better.
I wish I understood this point of view better. I crunch through information, so I want it to be densely packed. I'd love to know why and how this helps you so I can better help my peers that are like you?
I love how he said what he said and you dump this 5line paragraph on him 😘👌
A lot of people really have difficulty with maths and programming.
The way i imagine it, programming is something non-real, something metaphysical, or how you want to call it. And a lot of people even plainly reject that such a thing meaningfully exists. Think about how many people reject the existence of "spirits", "demons", or "god", based on nothing else but the argument that it is not tangible. Something similar is going on with maths and programming.
I like this only because it makes me feel like a wizard
you are a wizard, harry
...there are languages that aren't written in plaintext???
I only code in emoji
Is this you?
I take it back
I'm sorry
I'm so, so sorry
All programming languages claim to be for humans. Doesn't make them good at it.