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The Satanic Temple

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I noticed there wasn't a TST Lemmy community. The Satanic Temple is a modern satanic religion that aims to promote human rights and compassion. Check out their about page on their official website at https://thesatanictemple.com/pages/about-us. Note that this community is not an official affiliation. TST is also separate and not affiliated with the Church of Satan, who have a slightly different viewpoint of what satanism truly is. Dunno what to post in here, but maybe some will search for this and take part. Hello!

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"We are going to put Satanic chaplains in Florida schools, nothing in the bill places limits on who can become a chaplain, and Ron DeSantis can not simply amend the Constitution limiting the religious liberty of some by proclamation from the podium. "

excellent, yes. exactly. @thesatanictemple

https://lawandcrime.com/high-profile/desantis-says-satanism-is-not-real-and-not-qualifying-for-new-florida-school-chaplain-program/

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[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

The campaign slogan writes itself.

Ron DeSantis: Putting Satanic chaplains in our schools since 2024

I'm sure his base will love that.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

You assume republicans are capable of holding themselves accountable.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Nah, they modern day republican base operates on dog whistles. Near the next election, the Satanic Temple just needs to come out and thank DeSantis for his support with their effort on child outreach and how it wouldn't have been possible without DeSantis fighting for and passing the new laws.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Fuck, I think you're right. Progressives and libs seem to try to fight "conservatism" (fascism) using the same processes progressives themselves tend to value and support: communication, compromise, empathy, rationality, etc. They/we aren't perfect, but we as a group at least have some who tend to try.

Why the fuck aren't we also engaging like a bunch of degenerate apes when battling against christofascism? It's all "strong man right and good, weak man wrong and cuck" with them. Why don't we "out strong man" them? Trump has already shown us you don't actually have to be strong for them to perceive you as such, you just have to brag and bluster, like a yappy little dog.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

Because it doesn’t work on liberals. They actively hate that shit. See: Air America

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Please donate to the Satanic Temple if you are able. They fight these important cases on our behalf. Christofascists need to be reminded that this isn't a christian nation and that all religions are equal(y bad).

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Yes, it should even have to exist. But crazy judges think you have to be in a religion to be protected from other religions.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (2 children)

So, there's a lot of confusion about what TST is and what it does.

TST exists as a church for Satanism. Its activism is (primarily) based around fighting for the rights of Satanists.

If TST didn't need to fight for the rights of Satanists, it would still need to exist for every other reason that a church exists.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

We're talking about the satanic temple here right? It's just a cooler version of pastafarism. That does community outreach mainly to battle the Christian bullshit.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

This is a common misconception. TST is not a joke or parody religion.

[–] [email protected] -1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

What makes you say that? Read their faq it spells it out clearly https://thesatanictemple.com/ the goal is to combat psuedo science Christian bullshit.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago (2 children)

They don't believe in a supernatural power, but they see themselves as a serious religion with serious beliefs. From your link:

'[Satanism is] a narrative structure by which we contextualize our lives and works. ...[it is] a body of symbolism and religious practice — a sense of identity, culture, community, and shared values.'

They have seven Tenets, none of which are directly about other religions - although one does mention being opposed to 'distorting scientific facts'. Most are about compassion and individuality.

'Every tenet is a guiding principle designed to inspire nobility in action and thought.'

Agree with them or not, but they see themselves as much more than some kind of shell religion to undermine Religious Exemption statutes

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

The thing is, I don’t see how the seven tenets should conflict with modern religions at all. It’s fully compatible with what Christianity claims to be. By all logic, following the Satanic tenets should make you a better Christian, a better human

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

Christianity does not believe in bodily autonomy (tenet 3) or having your beliefs conform to the best scientific evidence (tenet 5). Even if it were 100% compatible with Christianity, though, that still wouldn't make it a parody religion.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Well I do agree with them, I am a member. My point is they don't believe in western religious tenants like gods and afterlife. Also I'm pretty sure they were founded in a rebuttal to the scotus opinion that athesim isn't a religion and thus doesn't deserve religious protections.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

they don’t believe in western religious tenants like gods and afterlife

Yeah, but their whole point is that this doesn't undermine their status as a religion. It doesn't make them 'a joke or parody religion', which is the phrase you initially replied to:

This is a common misconception. TST is not a joke or parody religion.

What makes you say that?

They don't exist as a semi-serious troll organisation to undermine Christianity is my point, they take their beliefs and religious status seriously.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

Which SCOTUS decision is that?

Atheism itself isn't a religion; it's just non-belief. You can have an atheistic religion, however.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I think maybe you are confused. From their FAQ

DO YOU WORSHIP SATAN? No, nor do we believe in the existence of Satan or the supernatural. The Satanic Temple believes that religion can, and should, be divorced from superstition. As such, we do not promote a belief in a personal Satan. To embrace the name Satan is to embrace rational inquiry removed from supernaturalism and archaic tradition-based superstitions. Satanists should actively work to hone critical thinking and exercise reasonable agnosticism in all things. Our beliefs must be malleable to the best current scientific understandings of the material world — never the reverse.

There is a church of Satan, how they compare is here

https://thesatanictemple.com/pages/about-us

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

Also from their FAQ

IF YOU DO NOT BELIEVE IN THE SUPERNATURAL, HOW IS TST A RELIGION?

The idea that religion belongs to supernaturalists is ignorant, backward, and offensive. The metaphorical Satanic construct is no more arbitrary to us than are the deeply held beliefs that we actively advocate. Are we supposed to believe that those who pledge submission to an ethereal supernatural deity hold to their values more deeply than we? Are we supposed to concede that only the superstitious are rightful recipients of religious exemption and privilege? Satanism provides all that a religion should be without a compulsory attachment to untenable items of faith-based belief. It provides a narrative structure by which we contextualize our lives and works. It also provides a body of symbolism and religious practice — a sense of identity, culture, community, and shared values.

If you want to compare and contrast TST and the Church of Satan, there's an excellent in-depth article here.

Neither one worships Satan. They are both religions. However, their values are very different.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I'm Christian and have donated to the Satanic Temple. Separation of Church and State is good for both institutions. I want the church out of politics and I want politics out of the church.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

If there are politics in your church, it's not really a church... and the IRS would very much like to know