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Everyone is different. Some people who are non binary but lean/present as feminine might use feminine words, but others I’ve seen use the masculine because they think modifying the grammar is complicated.

I personally use the gender-neutral modified language, like using elle in Spanish.

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[–] hellfire103@lemmy.ca 8 points 10 months ago (2 children)

I generally prefer neutral language (person, they/them, etc.), but I go through phases where I don't care if I get called he or she instead.

[–] voytek709@lemmy.ca 4 points 10 months ago (1 children)

That makes sense! I generally don’t care what I’m called (he or she), but I prefer neutral language. I used to hate (but not as much now) gendered terms such as “What’s up my man?” Or “This man”.

[–] hellfire103@lemmy.ca 4 points 10 months ago (2 children)

Yeah, I quite like "what's up my man?", but I'm not a fan of "this man".

I generally enjoy feminine stuff as well, simply because it's different, but I prefer neutral.

[–] voytek709@lemmy.ca 5 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago)

For the languages I’m learning:

Spanish, I generally prefer terms like elle (they), amigue (friend, gender neutral), etc.

Similarly, elu with Portuguese

Dukaisms with Polish

And hen for Norwegian

[–] voytek709@lemmy.ca 4 points 10 months ago

I’m fine with “my man” now :)

In 2021, I struggled with intense dysphoria which caused me to feel bad every time someone mentioned things like male parts, or gendered language.

[–] Hazelnutcookiez@lemmy.blahaj.zone 6 points 10 months ago

Spanish is my first language but nowadays I rarely use it, so I just stick to default stuff. If I still activity spoke Spanish everyday id probably make a effort to change up the grammar.

[–] hildegarde@lemmy.blahaj.zone 4 points 10 months ago (1 children)

In French, the plural they is the masculine ils for mixed gender groups, and only the feminine elles for groups that are exclusively feminine. On is a singular gender neutral form of they often used in situations with unknown gender.

I would use on for singular and ils for plural when talking about a non-binary person because that seems the most reasonable application of the language as I understand it.

However as a non-native speaker I would defer to whatever native speakers do. Can't say I know what the established best practice is.

[–] boo_@lemmy.blahaj.zone 3 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Not a native speaker of French, but while "on" can be used as singular "they," it is much more often used to say "one," as in: "One could eat a meal." I think "iel" is better because it is distinctly a third person singular personal pronoun. Sure, it is not as well established, but it is in at least one big respected dictionary.

[–] Droggelbecher@lemmy.world 3 points 10 months ago

As french learner, I'm curious. How do you go about making adjectives neutral?

[–] Droggelbecher@lemmy.world 4 points 10 months ago

I use feminine pronouns and masculine nouns usually! Sometimes vice versa, but can be more jarring for people, so it depends on the crowd.

[–] alex@jlai.lu 1 points 10 months ago

I'm nonbinary, look like a woman, and use masculine grammar to mark the non-binarity − I strongly dislike the gender-neutral new language for French, but if a less cringe one arose, I'd probably use it since in English I prefer they-them :)