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How the Plane and Helicopter Crash in Washington, D.C., Happened: Maps and Graphics (www.nytimes.com)

submitted 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) by silence7@slrpnk.net to c/nyt_gift_articles@sopuli.xyz

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Important context:

January 20: FAA director fired
January 21: Air Traffic Controller hiring frozen
January 22: Aviation Safety Advisory Committee disbanded
January 28: Buyout/retirement demand sent to existing employees
January 29: First American mid-air collision in 16 years

Staffing was not normal at air traffic control

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[–] deegeese@sopuli.xyz 69 points 1 year ago (3 children)

Trump killed 67 Americans and it’s still January 2025.

[–] Tar_alcaran@sh.itjust.works 34 points 1 year ago (1 children)

The last time he killed about 450.000 so, today is still below average.

[–] silence7@slrpnk.net 22 points 1 year ago

You're assuming that the plane crash is a full count. I'd be really surprised if some of the other things he's done this week (eg: limiting access to reimbursement for health care) haven't killed people.

[–] rbesfe@lemmy.ca 9 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (2 children)

This is an overreach that minimizes the people who are actually impacted by Trump's actions.

This was the heli pilot's error, plain and simple. Tower was following protocol and did not grant clearance because they were short on staff or something ridiculous like that.

[–] Wolf314159@startrek.website 9 points 1 year ago

Individual human failures are often a symptom of broader and larger systemic problems. Pointing out these systemic problems is not over reach.

[–] deegeese@sopuli.xyz 9 points 1 year ago (1 children)

They were short on staff because of Trump.

[–] rbesfe@lemmy.ca 2 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

This specific tower was not short on staff, and again, ATC doesn't just start issuing faulty clearances when they're short staffed.

Use your brain.

[–] nicky7@lemmy.ml 6 points 1 year ago (1 children)

New York Times reported that "Staffing Was ‘Not Normal’ at Reagan Airport Tower, According to F.A.A. Report"

https://www.nytimes.com/2025/01/30/business/air-traffic-control-staffing-plane-crash.html

[–] rbesfe@lemmy.ca 1 points 1 year ago

If you read a little deeper, you'd know that ATC error wasn't the cause of the crash. The clearance issued was perfectly valid

[–] homesweethomeMrL@lemmy.world -3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Yeah but the Democrats hate trans people!!

[–] deegeese@sopuli.xyz 8 points 1 year ago (1 children)

LOOK, A SQUIRREL!

[–] homesweethomeMrL@lemmy.world -2 points 1 year ago

A genoside squirrel!

[–] BigMacHole@lemm.ee 30 points 1 year ago

Even though this was the FIRST Mid Air Collision since 2008 and it happened AFTER gutting Federal Aviation Workers it's OBVIOUSLY BIDEN AND OBAMAS FAULT!

[–] peoplebeproblems@midwest.social 7 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I can summarize it:

Plane going in one direction Helicopter going in a different direction

Plane and Helicopter cross paths.

[–] jdnewmil@lemmy.ca 1 points 1 year ago

3d trajectories. Heli was 100ft higher than it was cleared to be.