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41% of fediverse instances have blocked threads so far!!! (tech.lgbt)
submitted 2 years ago by vantablack@lemmy.blahaj.zone to c/technology@lemmy.world
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[–] Pxtl@lemmy.ca 1 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 children)

Dumb. Federation is how we escape from every cloud-based service being a dictatorship of the person who owns the platform. That includes federating with privately own orgs to provide them an exit.

By all means make good tools to allow individual users to block Threads (or other private instances ruled by amoral coporations), but doing it at instance level is just dumb.

edit: also, number of instances doesn't matter. Number of daily active users matters. Most users are on mastodon.social, mastodon.cloud, lemmy.world, hachyderm.io, lemmy.world, etc. And all of those are federating. The only large instance that is not federating with threads is mas.to

[–] otter@lemmy.ca 1 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 children)

What I hate to see, even in this thread, is people turning on each other in this "us vs. them", "you're either a part of the pact or you're against us" nonsense

Let's all remember why WE ALL CHOSE to get on the fediverse and build it. The strength of the fediverse comes from the freedom for each instance to choose how to run things. My understanding is that no one in an instance is harmed if some other instance chooses to federate or defederate from Threads.

I hate Meta. I also know that Meta doesn't need to do anything to take down the fediverse if we do it ourselves.

[–] Pxtl@lemmy.ca 0 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

Part of it is just today's polarized political climate, especially since the popularity of the Fediverse is partially a backlash to reactionaries taking over Twitter and the corporate enshittification of Facebook and Reddit.

Everything is a war now, and solidarity and boycotts are basically the only weapons that small, independent actors have. So people apply "don't cross the picket line" thinking to everything, even where it doesn't make sense.

Want to act properly? Contribute money and labour towards your instances. Help them build better moderation tools so they can handle the flood of crap from Threads, and onboarding tools and better UX so they can steal away the Threads users.

[–] corbin@infosec.pub 0 points 2 years ago (1 children)

FOSS bros: we’re all about user choice!

also FOSS bros: no not like that

[–] halm@leminal.space 0 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 children)

You're downplaying your own part, in between those two statements.

Internet rando: "I choose to enable this corporate, repeat privacy offender in strongarming its way into the open, federated web"

Edit: spelling

[–] MostlyHarmless@sh.itjust.works 0 points 2 years ago (1 children)

How is Threads going to breach your privacy by federating with your instance? How is de federating from Threads going to protect your privacy?

[–] prole@sh.itjust.works 0 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Do you think this is Threads' final form? Embrace, extend, extinguish. This is what corporations do. Everything is a zero sum game in their minds, and they will act in the best interest of shareholders. That shit has no business here.

[–] halm@leminal.space 0 points 2 years ago (1 children)

I was going to reply but you nailed it. Its about outmaneuvering smaller competitors and controlling the marketplace, and then harvesting user data for profit.

[–] MostlyHarmless@sh.itjust.works 0 points 2 years ago (1 children)

They can already harvest the data. Nothing on the ActivityPub is private

[–] halm@leminal.space 0 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Sure, ignore my actual point. This is getting monotonous; enjoy Threads.

[–] MostlyHarmless@sh.itjust.works 0 points 2 years ago (1 children)

What point was that? If you don't join Threads, they don't have your data. They do have everything you publish to the Fediverse though, no matter what you do.

[–] halm@leminal.space 0 points 2 years ago

Buddy...

Its about outmaneuvering smaller competitors and controlling the marketplace

Work on your reading retention instead of plastering your one-note hot take all over the convo. This exchange is over.