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[–] Iamsqueegee@sh.itjust.works 68 points 11 months ago
[–] cyborganism@lemmy.ca 30 points 11 months ago (1 children)

While it's great that Russia is getting hit with digital sanctions, it does highlight how much we depend on majoritarily American GMAX (Google, Meta, Amazon and X) for communications and information.

The internet shouldn't be like this. That's how you end up with limited access to important services and price gouging where net neutrality laws don't exist.

I feel really fortunate to have the fediverse.

[–] MrMakabar@slrpnk.net 20 points 11 months ago (1 children)

This is just Russian internet infrastructure collapsing. Nothing to do with sanctions. Although digital sanctions have hit Russia, for the most part using a VPN works fine.

[–] Tar_alcaran@sh.itjust.works 9 points 11 months ago (3 children)

This is just Russian internet infrastructure collapsing. Nothing to do with sanctions.

You don't think those might be related???

[–] MrMakabar@slrpnk.net 6 points 11 months ago

Huawei still sells networking hardware to Russia. So that is not a problem.

Also T-Bank is Russian, as is Telegram at least somewhat. TikTok is Chinese and they do not sanction Russia.

[–] ticho@lemmy.world 1 points 11 months ago (1 children)

I would guess the manpower drain of their costly Ukraine war has a larger effect than the sanctions. They are simply running out of people to work on stuff, throughout the country.

[–] Dead_or_Alive@lemmy.world 5 points 11 months ago

It’s more than that. Russia is in terminal decline. The last batch of properly educated engineers graduated from Soviet schools in the late 80s. They are now retiring which leaves a huge skills gap. In the past Russia used Western expertise todo the work of building and maintaining oil fields etc. but that is cut off now. Chinese engineers can fill some of the gaps but they don’t have expertise in oil fields and certain types of engineering to replace Western expertise.

The war in Ukraine has only accelerated this process.

[–] cyborganism@lemmy.ca 1 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Yeah it sounds to me more like important services are being blocked.

[–] MrMakabar@slrpnk.net 2 points 11 months ago (1 children)

MTC is the largest Russian mobile carrier. T-Bank is a Russian bank. Telegram is mostly Russian as well, certainly not terribly Western. TikTok is Chinese. If this is blocking, then it is from the Russian side and not due to sanctions.

[–] cyborganism@lemmy.ca 1 points 11 months ago

Good point.

[–] ladicius@lemmy.world 24 points 11 months ago

Feels like an important cable was cut? Wanna cry a bit?

[–] Noodle07@lemmy.world 15 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Oof, when you wake up and all that's left to do is go outside and touch grass but it's winter in Russia

[–] ticho@lemmy.world 10 points 11 months ago (1 children)

So, you turn to vodka. Again.

[–] ODGreen@slrpnk.net 3 points 11 months ago

Ukraine blew up the distilleries though.

[–] cabron_offsets@lemmy.world 14 points 11 months ago

Fuck russia

[–] SplashJackson@lemmy.ca 12 points 11 months ago

Lol maybe shouldn't invade sovereign nations, gottem

[–] Sludgehammer@lemmy.world 12 points 11 months ago

The reasons for today's large-scale failure in the RuNet are definitely not connected with any exercises on the "sovereignization" of the Internet.

Yeah... that statement makes me a little suspicious.

[–] SpruceBringsteen@lemmy.world 8 points 11 months ago

No plans to conduct them, but the country did just experience one of the largest scale drone attacks of the war so far.

That's the fun part about having so much of your power in a country centralized in one person, is that big decisions can happen very fast. For better or worse.

[–] atro_city@fedia.io 7 points 11 months ago (1 children)

That is actually on way Ukraine can wage the war: cut the cables (like Russia did in the Baltic sea).

[–] Valmond@lemmy.world 1 points 11 months ago (1 children)

They probably can but what would the benefits be?

[–] atro_city@fedia.io 4 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Let's see how long you can deal without internet.

[–] Valmond@lemmy.world 3 points 11 months ago

You mean civil unrest?

[–] disguy_ovahea@lemmy.world 6 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

Putin loves his centralized media. Lol

[–] The_Che_Banana@beehaw.org 5 points 11 months ago

But I thought Vlad had made their own internet with blackjack & hookers and darn well didn't need nobody else!

[–] Evotech@lemmy.world 5 points 11 months ago

Nice, time to play dota

[–] CanadaPlus@lemmy.sdf.org 5 points 11 months ago (1 children)

For the platforms, I'm guessing everyone in Russia is familiar with VPNs?

[–] Valmond@lemmy.world 1 points 11 months ago

the Vatniks Primitive Network?