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  1. We're trying to improving working conditions and pay.

  2. We're trying to reduce the numbers of hours a person has to work.

  3. We talk about the end of paid work being mandatory for survival.

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[–] manicdave@feddit.uk 2 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Notice how this doesn't even have anything to do with productivity. These people were fired purely for having the gall to not respect office hours regardless of the completion of tasks.

[–] henfredemars@infosec.pub 2 points 2 years ago (2 children)

Solution: work

Very

Slowly

[–] hglman@lemmy.ml 2 points 2 years ago (1 children)

No, I would like to actually have time in my life not send it being a sloth slave.

[–] umbrella@lemmy.ml 1 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 children)

you can have time in between being a sloth slave throughout your work day, if thats how these fucks will force us to be.

[–] hglman@lemmy.ml 2 points 2 years ago (1 children)

They don't force shit we accept it by not forcing back.

[–] umbrella@lemmy.ml 1 points 2 years ago
[–] manicdave@feddit.uk 1 points 2 years ago

Yeah. That's the problem. It doesn't seem to be that they didn't do the work, it's that they did other stuff too.

[–] autotldr@lemmings.world 1 points 2 years ago

This is the best summary I could come up with:


The US bank Wells Fargo has fired more than a dozen workers for alleged “simulation of keyboard activity”, in an apparent attempt to fool their employer into thinking they were working.

A company spokesperson said: “Wells Fargo holds employees to the highest standards and does not tolerate unethical behaviour.”

Jamie Dimon, the chief executive of JP Morgan, told the Economist last year that employees who did not want to commute to the office could find a job elsewhere.

In 2020, Microsoft apologised for using software that singled out individuals and assigned them a “productivity score” based on emails sent and meetings attended.

Last year the British thinktank the Institute for Public Policy Research called workplace surveillance “dystopian”, claiming that it disproportionately targeted minorities as well as female and younger workers.

Jennifer Abruzzo, the general counsel of the US National Labour Relations Board, said in a 2022 memo that she was worried about keystroke monitoring software being used by some employers in order to discourage workers from unionising.


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[–] Stizzah@lemmygrad.ml 1 points 2 years ago

Lack of workers rights, as usual. In (most of) Europe those monitoring systems are illegal, as it should be.

[–] fishos@lemmy.world -1 points 2 years ago (3 children)

Well Fargo fired people for working a second job ON COMPANY TIME, USING COMPANY RESOURCES AND COMPUTERS.

THIS IS FRAUD.

They abso-fucking-lutely deserved this. Don't get behind this story and act like it's employers being shitty when it was employees faking working their main job using mouse/keyboard idlers to work a second job during time they were being paid by the first job for, using resources provided by the first job.

Work 2 jobs separately? Big whoop. Being paid for your time to do a job and you do a completely different job in that time using your employers resources? Hell, be glad they didn't sue you.

Get behind real issues, not this. This just makes you look like the reddit anti work mod who got interviewed and complained that they couldn't support themselves as a dog walker for 2 hours a week. It makes YOU look unreasonable.

[–] funkless_eck@sh.itjust.works 1 points 2 years ago (1 children)

it literally says they were fired for using a mouse jiggler.

However, I live in a so-called right-to-work state, which means my employer can do whatever the fuck they like - but the flip side is - so can I.

The contract I signed doesn't mention which or how many hours I work, just that I don't disclose privileged information to competitors.

[–] fishos@lemmy.world -1 points 2 years ago

Lmao that's not how "right to work" works. That's how having a contract works lmao

[–] Sarcasmo220@lemmy.ml 0 points 2 years ago (1 children)

You are correct that in our current capitalist system, the employees were in the wrong.

The problem is the capitalist system itself is wrong.

The Antiwork community is here to as a counter culture to the capitalist/corporate culture that has become so ingrained in our society at large. The idea that a person is forced to stay at work for their entire shift, even during times where there is no work to be done, is a problem. That is essentially where the term "wage slave" comes from, because while we are on the clock we lose our freedom to do what we want with our time.

[–] fishos@lemmy.world -1 points 2 years ago

Then get behind the people doing 4 WFH jobs. Use GOOD examples to further this idea. Not people blatantly perpetrating fraud and acting like they're heros. We need strong cases, not ones easily broken down and dismissed. This case is too easily in favor of the employers. Is capitalism shit? Sure. But you're literal job is to be available during those hours. Hiding the fact that you're doing another job using company time and resources, is fraud, plain and simple. If you didn't think it was fraud, would you have hidden it?

[–] IsThisAnAI@lemmy.world -1 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 children)

Lololol what? Utilizing down time? You've made that up. They were lying about working.

This is pure fuck around and find out. These fuck faces are ruining WFH for everyone.

[–] manicdave@feddit.uk 0 points 2 years ago

The article doesn't say anything about productivity or targets. They got as much done as someone who manually wiggles the mouse while thinking instead of going for a walk while thinking.