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What does it take in terms of assets, abilities, and/or income for you to consider them wealthy?

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[–] [email protected] 3 points 3 months ago (1 children)

You can cure rich with a weekend in Vegas, Wealth is terminal.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 3 months ago

Shit, for the obscenely rich, a green plumber can cure that.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 3 months ago

In general I would say you're rich if you could stop working and live a life where you never want for anything

[–] [email protected] 3 points 3 months ago

It's always "wealthier than us", isn't it?

But I'd say whenever you have no money worries, that's wealthy. Like you could retire today if you wanted and not just survive but buy a new car or house if you wanted to, go on a long vacation, anything that just needs money to do is within your reach. Never have to say no simply because of money. That is what I define as wealth (financial wealth) and it's different amounts in different places.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago) (2 children)

Which kind of rich do you mean? The 'this person is truly wealthy but it's not unreasonable' or 'this person is unacceptably rich and should have their money taken away if not worse'?

The former can be somewhere around....$10,000,000 or so. Lower the older the person is really (cause I consider rich versus remaining expected lifespan), so maybe even as low as $6,000,000 for someone who's currently 40.

The latter where it's simply unacceptable for people to have that much I'd start the cutoff around $400,000,000 or so.

And slight sidenote on the unacceptable levels: Elon Musk and Jeff Bezos both are so unacceptably wealthy that they could make one person a day wealthy by my $10,000,000 standard...every day...for 100 years...before running out (and that's assuming they stopped accruing money at the beginning of this)...and still be unacceptably wealthy to a crazy degree.

Oh and all my numbers are assuming no additional income and definitely no interest or investment (but also assuming the money remains the same value it has today).

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[–] [email protected] 2 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago)

You are wealthy/rich at the point where you no longer know or care about the well being of the people that count on you to survive–the point of dehumanization is the threshold of a monster.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Anyone with a net worth listed on their wikipedia page.

Anyone who can lose several million dollars at work and might still have a job the next day.

Anyone who can damage fancy clothing and think "I'll just get a new one."

Anyone who can have a holiday abroad every year. Especially if they have a summer home.

Anyone who gets surprised when they find out someone has never been skiing.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 3 months ago

Anyone who gets surprised when they find out someone has never been skiing.

That depends on culture a lot. In Austria it's actually rare to find someone who has never been skiing (25% of the population go skiing regularly, and that has already been at around 50% not many years ago). Even when not doing it with your family while growing up everyone learns it at school.

I'm not rich at all but I do get surprised when someone who isn't obviously from another country has never been skiing (typically it means that they grew up somewhere else but you just don't notice anymore).

[–] [email protected] 1 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Wealth, to me, is relative, measured by how far-reaching you can do things.

In the top tier, there are billionaires who can make decisions on the world stage, such as Elon Musk making satellites to help various countries or L Ron Hubbard buying a navy and putting places of worship in other countries.

In the middle tier, there are people who can make decisions on the national level, such as smaller business chains putting their businesses in various states.

In the low tier, there are people who can make decisions on the local level, such as buying management at a local school.

And then there are the rest of us, who have our whole empires concentrated on a single street.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 3 months ago

who have our whole empires concentrated on a single street.

Running an empire out of rental ain't very glamorous tho esp when you short on rent

[–] [email protected] 1 points 3 months ago

You're not really wealthy until you can raise your own legion.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 3 months ago

I think calling Bezos rich is an understatement. My mind cannot comprehend the amount of wealth he has.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 3 months ago

Rich - enough money to throw around and buy expensive things, but could lose everything with some poor decisions because they are spending their income instead of focusing on future wealth

Wealthy - expenses are easily paid using income from investments, easily accessible loans from property, or some other wealth based process. They don't need to actively work to do the same kinds of thing a rich person can do, and it is difficult for them to lose their wealth.

There are not any specific dollar amount thresholds, because it depends on spending and local cost of living. Wealthy people will make decisions that maintain enough wealth that will increase in value over time to beat inflation, rich people make decisions based on whether they can afford it right now.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 3 months ago

Not only live off investment portfolios, but live well.

I.e. one or two summer houses, take multiple foreign vacations. And do that comfortably with what they already have or are passively earning.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 3 months ago

$500,000 combined household gross income

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