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[–] squeezy@lemmy.world 1 points 1 hour ago

The UK'S emissions are a drop in the ocean compared to various other nations, our marginal contribution is minuscule

[–] abadidonque@feddit.uk 17 points 6 hours ago* (last edited 6 hours ago)

That's because if they publish it, they will have to explain why they're not doing enough about it.

  • Fat majority in parliament
  • Mandate for change
  • Predecessor hated for being "more of the same"
  • "Burnham Bounce"
  • Just had a summer of extreme weather.
  • 80% of UK population want more/faster action on climate.

If no help is coming from the government now, I doubt it's going to happen any time soon.

[–] Corvidae@lemmy.world 22 points 8 hours ago* (last edited 8 hours ago) (2 children)

Modern civilization's greatest failure, earth's climate. Not a failure of science, but of control structures, failures of governments to act on humankind's behalf.

[–] Evehn@sh.itjust.works 11 points 7 hours ago

Greatest failure SO FAR!

[–] itsjustachairmary@lemmy.world 0 points 5 hours ago

This Labour government comes in at a close second though, as far as greatest failures go

[–] NoLemurs@lemmy.world 60 points 10 hours ago (3 children)

I feel like every story I hear out of the UK lately is some weird combination of stupid and vaguely dystopian.

Are things ok over there?

[–] Theoriginalthon@lemmy.world 1 points 48 minutes ago

I don't feel like any progress has been made in the past 25 years. Progress in some areas is offset by complete fuck ups in other areas

[–] cecilkorik@piefed.ca 1 points 50 minutes ago

No. They're a mess. Brexit was a mess. Their politics are a mess. The royal family is a mess. Their culture is a mess. Their economy is a mess. Their climate is a mess. They're not ok, but there's not really anything we can do for them, so... I guess they're on their own, like the rest of us. They'll have to figure their shit out, pronto, or fall into chaos, which seems more likely what everyone is going to end up doing around the world. I wish them luck. They'll need it. We'll all need it.

[–] nforminvasion@lemmy.world 23 points 9 hours ago

Bruh... Orwell literally wrote about how authoritarian the British government was in the 50s. Of course 1984 was highly exaggerated at that point, but the point still stands.

No, the world's former premier colonizer is not okay. All that shit they did is turning inwards, just like in US. Not saying the common person deserves is, unlike weird tankies fetishizing suffering of the west as some kind of karmaic justice. The Global South is still suffering too. No one is having a good time.

[–] A_norny_mousse@piefed.social 24 points 10 hours ago (1 children)

I mean fuck the British government, but how much more explosive-then-ignored can those reports get. Extremely depressing to see the already way too permissive 1.5%-target get pushed up to 2.8% or whatever.

[–] Hanrahan@lemmy.world 1 points 6 hours ago

pushed up to 2.8% or whatever.

That's optimistic, here's Bill McGuire on the issue

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4ydTfg53D8I

[–] panthera_@lemmy.today 12 points 9 hours ago (1 children)

The UK cannot escape from reality. The effects of climate change from drought to intense rain will be evident.

[–] msage@programming.dev 2 points 36 minutes ago

And freezing. UK will freeze. And lose a lot of land.

[–] random_character_a@lemmy.world 10 points 9 hours ago (1 children)

AMOC shutting down and -35 to -50ºC winter temperatures in the next 80 years?

Worst case of course.

[–] brucethemoose@lemmy.world 6 points 9 hours ago* (last edited 9 hours ago)

Yeah… Europe will soon find out how great they had things at such a high latitude.

Aka what being on the edge of the Arctic Circle feels like without AMOC.

[–] Hanrahan@lemmy.world 2 points 6 hours ago

Emeritus Professor Bill McGuire gives a good precies here

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4ydTfg53D8I

[–] digdig@piefed.social 1 points 7 hours ago

we make tea with wee when it's bad.

[–] horn_e4_beaver@discuss.tchncs.de -1 points 5 hours ago* (last edited 5 hours ago) (1 children)

Maybe they're worried how extreme emigration would get if people knew what the UK was going to look like? Think of the flood of capital out.

Edit: to make it clear: emigration is when people leave a country.

[–] DeadEndLink@lemmy.ca 1 points 8 hours ago

Neolib climate killers.

[–] CapuccinoCoretto@lemmy.world 2 points 10 hours ago (2 children)
[–] frongt@lemmy.zip 11 points 9 hours ago (1 children)

He's not. He's the one locking the doors when there actually is a fire.

[–] CapuccinoCoretto@lemmy.world 2 points 9 hours ago (1 children)

Sorry. There are two possible meanings for the idiom "don't yell fire in a crowded theatre":

The benevolent is to avoid a crowd's panic. The selfish is to make your exit first, before the crowd's panic.

I'm not close enough to British politics to say one way or another. But the idiom fits either way.

[–] schipelblorp@sh.itjust.works 10 points 9 hours ago (1 children)

The idiom "don't yell fire in a crowded theory" only applies when there is no fire.

It's usually brought up in free speech arguments, and the question is if triggering a panic which could kill people by causing them to be trampled underfoot (from back in the day when people actually responded appropriately to the risk of fire which we have since lost in the days of fire codes and controls) in the absence of an actual fire is a free speech right.

[–] CapuccinoCoretto@lemmy.world 3 points 9 hours ago* (last edited 8 hours ago) (1 children)

Traditionally yes. It has taken on new meaning over time. I've had many conversations with all sorts of people high and low where the double-entendre is clear if not explicit.

Edit: I should add that its within the context of corporate, civil and military disaster management planning. The public remains largely unaware, ignorant while many insiders throughout various institutions know how bad and how quickly things can get. Those who know often want to make their moves, before the public catches on, therefore like to muddy the message.

Classic example are investors talking their book. By the time you read about an opportunity in the G&M, FT etc, the insiders have already made the trades and the public is now their exit strategy.

In the UK, in the context of climate change, look up LifeBoat Ethics. You'll see where this new usage of an old idiom is going.

[–] schipelblorp@sh.itjust.works 4 points 8 hours ago (1 children)

I'm still absorbing literally to mean figuratively and continue to use adverbial forms. Jonathan Swift wrote a story about me.

[–] Viking_Hippie@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 6 hours ago (1 children)

Jonathan Swift wrote a story about me.

Did he want rich people to eat you?

[–] schipelblorp@sh.itjust.works 2 points 6 hours ago

That, too, but I was thinking of a story about a country where people live a thousand years and nobody can understand the seniors because their language is aniquated and they can't understand younger generations.

[–] theacharnian@lemmy.ca 9 points 9 hours ago* (last edited 9 hours ago)

More like he doesn't want to vindicate the people who've been screaming their lungs out for the last decades, while being victimized and brutalized.