what complete idiot would buy this today?
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A lot of people. Most not through idiocy, but through knowledge suppression. All mass media is in the hands of the robber class.
I don't buy it (no pun inteneded)… it's not escaping the matrix, all the horrible stuff these companies do is out in the open now
I'm not saying some couldn't still be fooled, but enough to make these spyware gear commercially viable at those prices and in the current economic enviroment?
We are in an information bubble. So are they.
clearly not in the same fashion if we agree these devices are spyware while they don't
It's not the same bubble.
it's possible to intercept the traffic to see what they are sending or not sending... I don't see the need for ad hominem.
no, it isnt… traffick would be encrypted (and if it isn't, that would be an even worse privacy/security nightmare)
They could also just continue collecting data while the mic is muted and hold that until the next time the device is unmuted. Then upload their spy data at the same time as legitimate data to hide it.
Do you know if the traffic is encrypted or not?
I trust this about the same as I trust the microphone off switch on my Google nest mini..
you know you can intercept the traffic and prove your suspicions (right or wrong) instead of making baseless accusations, right?
Don’t even need to do that, haven’t had one in a while but when I did, I remember I had it on mute and said hey Google. It responded immediately with “the microphone is muted.” How did it know to answer then?
I don't recall accusing the nest of anything except earning my distrust. I'm more the type to open it and solder my own switch in, which is what I did.
Finally. Just what I’ve always wanted.
Gonna buy one of these and install it into my toilet bowl and drop hot steamers on it so Amazon can watch.
They’ll just sell you fiber supplements and toilet paper
sounds like win/win
Echo Show has had a camera for many years, I don't understand the outrage now all of a sudden. It does have a physical shutter slide though.