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Donald Trump's bruising return to the White House has sent many longtime foreign allies scrambling to get their distance, and according to a new piece from The Atlantic, that distance will last long after Trump is gone.

Trump's second term as president has been marked by notable and widespread disrespect toward nations once seen as close U.S. allies. Between his attempts to level massive tariffs against nearly every nation in the world and his frequent breaches of diplomatic norms, Trump has created a hostile global environment in which allies no longer feel safe trusting in the stability of the U.S.

In a new piece for The Atlantic on Tuesday, staff writer Vivian Salama argued that this new dynamic, in which the nations of the world are working to establish a safe distance from the U.S., is bound to become the new normal for years to come, even after Trump leaves office and is potentially replaced by a more traditional, dependable administration.

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[–] Taleya@aussie.zone 18 points 5 hours ago (1 children)

Because it's not trump.

The whole damned US framework facilitated this little shitheel. And its shown you are not to be trusted, and unfit to operate on an international stage

[–] KingPorkChop@lemmy.ca 5 points 3 hours ago (1 children)

That's the thing. I hear Americans saying to not blame them, this is all Trump.

Not so fast. The entire US government is failing from the middle out. Sure, Trump is an idiot manchild, but the entire US government is supporting him. The GOP fights dirty and don't care about laws while the democrats completely stopped playing the game and sit on their hands. The citizens elected Trump twice, almost three times, and keep electing the other people around him supporting his insanity or unwilling to fight it.

The majority of US citizens wanted this to happen or allowed it to happen.

Generations of propaganda and lies, the dumbing down of the population combined with arrogance and hubris have accelerated the downfall of an empire whose only current goal is to extract all the wealth from the population.

[–] GeneralEmergency@lemmy.world 1 points 33 minutes ago

The majority of US citizens wanted this to happen or allowed it to happen.

A big aspect that gets ignored.

This is the second time Americans allowed Trump into office. If they can't be bothered to walk across the street to vote, they can't claim Trump doesn't represent all Americans.

[–] 0x4f1@lemmy.world 7 points 6 hours ago (1 children)

Delegating your security to any other country, like much of the world has done for decades with the US, is never a good idea. Europe did this after WW2 because so much of it was destroyed by war. Allowing the US to continue as their sugar daddy for so long is at least partially on them. Canada is feeling the sting of this too right now.

If a country can't provide for most of its own needs in terms of goods, services and energy, it has no real sovereignty.

[–] metermatic26@lemmy.world 1 points 2 hours ago

There was ample reason to do this. After WWII, Europe’s industrial base had been completely destroyed and its wealth had been plundered. Western Europe couldn’t recover without the US.

Then during the sixtees and seventees, the national industries of Western European states simply couldn’t compete in the arms race with the US and USSR because of the limited scale of their industries and the lack of key industrial capabilities.

The only real exception is France. But until late in the 20th France was a colonial power. And you could argue that France is still being bankrolled only now its EU that’s paying the bills.

[–] Digit@lemmy.today 1 points 4 hours ago

the global historical situation, does feel a bit like [we the world] obiwan wailing at the birth of darth vader, "you were supposed to be the chosen one", [at america] where the hope was.

maybe we should cease looking for a strongman saviour on the international/global stage, as well as domestically/nationally.

[ happen to be playing https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GyO08j_JEps while writing this. ]

... anyway, that'd be foolish to think it something special and unique to Trump. He's their boy. Puppet does its job.

even after Trump leaves office and is potentially replaced by a more traditional, dependable administration

and wont that be a pleasant placatium to passify the people [in USA?~ agnotological inducement deep enough into insular oblivion sufficient to not be aware that; in the rest of the world?~ no. like the article's main point. But the people there wont likely be sufficiently aware... and so the injustice machine that is the military industrial complex shall continue. unless... ... unless... that "unless" is so tenuously thin now. c'mon americans, you can do it... ]

[–] Scaramanga@thelemmy.club 14 points 10 hours ago

The end of an empire ?

[–] Thor_Whale@lemmus.org 12 points 16 hours ago

Look at him salute. He's an embarrassment and no one has the courage to tell him to stop saluting like a drunkard. Plus it's a disrespect to the military and I'm not even a military guy.

[–] lemmy_outta_here@lemmy.world 11 points 18 hours ago

America First? America Alone.

[–] rumimevlevi@sh.itjust.works 11 points 19 hours ago (1 children)

You deserve it for by ing an evil empire

[–] likebudda@reddthat.com 7 points 18 hours ago

I voted blue and donated to contested races as much as I could afford. I am too lazy/socially anxious to canvass or do anything active like that. In my bubble, there was plenty of Kamala hype and even though I didn't believe it, all I could do was ask anonymous online strangers to vote and hope enough of them voted my way. I shouldn't have been surprised at the power of racism and sexism in the country but it was still a shock to the system. In my circles supporting him was utterly unthinkable so I have no explanation on how it happened.

[–] Gammelfisch@lemmy.world 4 points 15 hours ago

Designed by the bastard Muscovites and used by the MAGA circus. Throw in Project 2025 too.

[–] HalfSalesman@lemmy.world 31 points 1 day ago* (last edited 23 hours ago) (3 children)

The average American citizen wont understand or care about this, and yet I do imagine there are pretty negative long term implications for them, along with all the other garbage being piled onto them.

I brought up that the cost of diesel has gone up massively (particularly at the start of the Iran conflict) and has started to rapidly balloon again to a co-worker at my 2nd job said he did not care about the price of diesel because he doesn't use diesel...

I carefully explained to him that everything is shipped over land is using diesel and this will cause the price of everything to go up and he pushed back again saying "Well everything is going up in price anyway." Its like dude WTF do you even do with people like this? I did not even touch on the expense of using heavy construction and farming machinery also increasing costs of everything...

He described himself once as someone who agrees with democrats on social issues but thinks republicans are better on the economy and I internally was like DUUUUDE THIS IS THE FUCKING REPUBLICAN ECONOMY RIGHT NOW YOU FUCKING TROGLODYTE AAAHAHHAHAHA WE FUCKING DESERVVVVE THIIIIIIIISSSS.

[–] Soggy@lemmy.world 7 points 18 hours ago

The only "social issue" he cares about is his tax burden.

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[–] TheObviousSolution@lemmy.ca 16 points 21 hours ago

In 2000, the Simpson's episode "Bart to the Future" predicted a Trump presidency that left the economy in shambles for Lisa. It's funny how mild it's foreboding prediction when compared to what his actual presidency has become. I realize his support is tanking, but it's still way too high, specially for a now severely compromised federal system.

[–] DarkFuture@lemmy.world 25 points 1 day ago

I always knew conservatives (regressives) would destroy America. I just didn't think it would be so fast and so aggressively stupid.

[–] itisileclerk@lemmy.world 21 points 1 day ago (8 children)

In the end, the world will thank Trump for freeing them from American shackles. I hope that this is the beginning of the end of US dominance.

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