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[–] [email protected] 1 points 4 months ago

You missed one: Invade neighbours under the threat of nuclear war --> Collective defence against belligerent commies.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 4 months ago (1 children)

invasion intervention

my favorite

[–] [email protected] 1 points 4 months ago

Liberation is a better word.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 4 months ago

"Secret Police" .... in the US, they're called the FBI and CIA

[–] [email protected] 1 points 4 months ago

i will accept all this except authoritarian, my country would nev- aw shit man 😔

[–] [email protected] 1 points 4 months ago

"Lethal Aid" honestly sounds worse than weapons to me. XD

[–] [email protected] 1 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago) (1 children)

Military attack -> Kinetic military action

Torture -> Enhanced interrogation

[–] [email protected] 1 points 4 months ago

Torture in prison -> not officially (Guantamano & similiar)

[–] [email protected] 0 points 4 months ago (2 children)

I can see where these things are coming, but it tries way too hard to use different terms for each side. Like Entrepreneur is definitely not the same as an Oligarch however one tries to twist it. Authoritarian - Law & Order comparison is a bit strange, since it would seem that you are implying that Authoritarianism to any kind of government. Every other term, hold Invasion, could have an asterisk attached to them.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 4 months ago

You're absolutely right of course, and that is exactly the point of the OP. These things are not the same, but the media uses the terms on the left for the baddies, and the terms on the right for the good guys (the US and allies), even though the media are referring to the same exact thing.

They'll refer to Elon Musk as entrepeneur, but were he Russian, they would refer to him as an oligarch. The thirteenth amendment allows for slavery as a punishment, and the US uses it, but you'll never see the media refer to prisons as labor camps (which they are), even though they do for the baddies. When the US was busy murdering hundreds of thousands of civilians in Iraq using cluster bombs and napalm, the media would refer to it as collateral damage (by now I believe that there are major outlets that use the term "war crime" for what the US did back then). When Russia does the same in Ukraine, the media immediately calls it out as war crimes.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 4 months ago

I agree with your point. But the way I read this is not like "An Entrepreneur in the USA is the same as an Oligarch in Rusia", instead more like "If we used the same standards we use to call Rusian Oligarchs Oligarchs (which they totally are), then in the USA there are Oligarchs too (Musk, Bezos, Zuckerberg, Gates, etc). But instead we call them Entrepreneurs". Same with all the other examples, there are actions that when performed by Rusia, China, etc, are called Authoritarian, but when performed by the USA and European countries are justified as upholding Law & Order or similar bullshit.

Of course the reading here can't be the USA and europeans do the same, so we can't complain about Rusia/China/etc. Fuck that, fuck Rusia, fuck China, fuck all of them. To me, the point is that, from the outside, is pretty obvious that Rusia and co are fucking imperialist assholes. It's obvious that the Rusian people are being manipulated by propaganda to support the fucking invasion of Ukraine. But we must be careful that the same is happening in all our countries, maybe to a lesser degree (though IMO the USA is at least as bad as Rusia when it comes to imperialism BS, but I'm latin american so I'm biased hahaha), and maybe this way we can stop doing the same awful shit they are doing.

[–] [email protected] -1 points 4 months ago (3 children)

Well one difference is that the US still have free access to most of the internet.

We'll see if that changes in 2025.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 4 months ago

Texans can’t access Porn Hub already.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 4 months ago

They've been trying to censor our access to the Internet for about twenty years.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 4 months ago

Well one difference is that the US still have free access to most of the internet.

To most of the internet expect to the stuff that they don't want you to see.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lavabit

"Lavabit is an open-source encrypted webmail service, founded in 2004. The service suspended its operations on August 8, 2013, after the U.S. Federal Government ordered it to turn over its Secure Sockets Layer (SSL) private keys, in order to allow the government to spy on Edward Snowden's email."

[–] [email protected] -1 points 4 months ago (2 children)

Ah I see that "Late Stage Capitalism" actually means "tankie" in this community.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 4 months ago

Explain yourself

[–] [email protected] 1 points 4 months ago

You were actually in a socialist/communist space. This isn't late stage capitalism in an ironic liberal bullshit kind of way, it's actual late stage capitalism, which is a stage of fascism.

[–] [email protected] -1 points 4 months ago

There is actually a difference between a dictatorship and a flawed democracy. One of them is that the actual threat of assassination might have a chilling effect on people's willingness to criticise the government.