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[–] svcg@lemmy.blahaj.zone 13 points 6 days ago (2 children)

There are some transphobes and/or enbyphobes who will insist that bisexual means attraction to only two genders, and we all know why they're doing that.

Others will say that bisexual means they based on the meaning of the prefix "bi-". But that is the etymological fallacy. The current meaning of a word is not necessarily related to its etymological origin. Words change meaning literally all the time, and we should all be nonplussed about it by now [1].

In reality, words only mean what people generally understand them to mean [2]. Most dictionaries still retain, at least implicitly, a two definition, but most LGBT+ orgs and psychological associations and whatnot tend to define it as "more than one" gender, or similar.

Similarly, pansexual is generally defined as attraction to all genders or attraction being irrelevant of gender in the vast majority of places that care to declare a definition. But there are those who use it to mean the same thing as the latter definition of bisexual because they believe bisexual to mean the former definition of bisexual.

So what is the actual difference? It probably depends where you are and who you're talking to. Womp womp.

There's a joke/stereotype that many people who describe themselves as bi are attracted to one specific type of guy, and literally all women.

In my practical experience, people are more likely to identify as bisexual if they tend have a preference for certain gender presentations over others, and more likely to identify as pansexual if they are (closer to being) equally horny for all. Or if they have a preference for more pastel colours.

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[1] Even I believe, in my heart, that using the word nonplussed this way is wrong.

[2] Ha! I got the linguistic prescriptivists and the logicians with that one!

[–] Bluescluestoothpaste@sh.itjust.works 1 points 4 days ago (1 children)
[–] svcg@lemmy.blahaj.zone 1 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Per my comment, it depends who you ask.

If you ask the Oxford English Dictionary, pansexuals are a subset of bisexuals.

bisexual, adjective: sexually or romantically attracted to people of more than one sex or gender

pansexual, adjective: sexually or romantically attracted to people without regard to their sex or gender

If you ask Wiktionary, bisexuals and pansexuals are two non overlapping sets of people (though see the usage notes).

bisexual, adjective: sexually attracted to both opposite-sex and same-sex individuals

pansexual, adjective: someone who is attracted to all types of people regardless of gender or sex

[–] Bluescluestoothpaste@sh.itjust.works 1 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Well fair enough I'll leave it at that seems like i get it wrong anytime i try to put it into my own words lol

[–] svcg@lemmy.blahaj.zone 2 points 2 days ago

I find the best thing to do when anyone uses either word is just nod politely and try not to wonder too much about precisely what they meant.

[–] birdwing@lemmy.blahaj.zone 2 points 5 days ago (2 children)

I always viewed it like bi- as in, one's own gender + another (whatever group it may be).

Then there are pan- and omni-, and I thought pan- = one's own + multiple but not all

while omni- = all of them

is that not the case then? til

[–] svcg@lemmy.blahaj.zone 1 points 2 days ago

Both pan- and omni- mean all, but pan- is Greek and omni- is Latin.

Wiktionary's definition of pansexual and omnisexual suggests that when people distinguish them, it is that pansexual implies everyone in a gender-blind way, and omnisexual implies everyone but differently for different genders.

pansexual, adjective: someone who is attracted to all types of people regardless of gender or sex

omnisexual, adjective: being attracted to all genders (sometimes distinguished from pansexual by saying omnisexual attraction may still take account of gender or prefer particular genders)

If we were going strictly by prefixes, then it would be:

  1. bisexual - attracted two precisely two genders,
  2. multisexual - attracted to two or more genders,
  3. omnisexual - attracted to all genders (though possibly to varying degrees),
  4. pansexual - mixes Greek and Latin and therefore doesn't count as a real word. (/joke)
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[–] dewritoninja@pawb.social 7 points 5 days ago

Bisexuals are salt water and pansecuals are freshwater. But fr from my understanding bisexual started as an exonym (originaly it meant something like hermafroditism but later it became about orientation), and since bisexual people have always been subject to erasure they latched onto it. Of course this term came to existence when the academic view of gender was binary so way later people wanted to update the label to reflect the change in paradigm but a lot of older people had become very attached to the laber and refused to change it and then people tried to rationalize differences but they are so subtle that imo is an exercise in futility.

I use both , but use pan online where people are more likely to understand me and bi irl cause for a lot of people the label pan feels completely alien.

You can only be bisexual if you are from the bisexual region of France, else you are sparkling pansexual

[–] Lushed_Lungfish@lemmy.ca 11 points 6 days ago (2 children)

I thought pansexuals needed to be seasoned first and washed immediately after each use then thoroughly patted dry?

[–] bobbyfiend@retrolemmy.com 3 points 6 days ago

This feels like a corner of the community trying to make rules for everyone. I think the intent is good, but I don't think the definitions are as you say at this point in history because I don't think they are any particular way. The people with the identities should decide on labels and meanings, and after several discussions with bi and pan people (specifically about this) or seems clear to me that there is not a strong consensus about what the terms "truly" mean. It is all over the place (at least in the sample of people whose discussions I witnessed).

One common thread is that almost none of them want to use the labels to exclude others.

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[–] Snowclone@lemmy.world 11 points 6 days ago (18 children)

Just a heads up to everyone that has a Bisexuality definition that isn't Bisexual, I'd really recommend not putting anti-trans labels and bullshit on Bi people, it's never failed too piss off every Bi person I've ever been or known.

It's not anti anything, people just get horny at whoever gets them horny, and dont get horny at people who dont.

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[–] SCmSTR@lemmy.blahaj.zone 8 points 6 days ago (1 children)
[–] SystemDisc@feddit.org 8 points 6 days ago (7 children)

Pansexual because gender and physical looks are mostly irrelevant to what you find sexually attractive

Bisexual because you find both sexes physically attractive making gender mostly irrelevant

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[–] bobbyfiend@retrolemmy.com 5 points 6 days ago

Bisexuals have a tomato base while pansexuals are more teriyaki.

[–] BowtiesAreCool@lemmy.world 6 points 6 days ago

By most definitions I’d consider myself pansexual, but boy do I like the bi flag more, so that is what I typically use. And it’s easier for a layman to understand.

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