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[–] ayyy@sh.itjust.works 46 points 2 days ago (5 children)

This clickbait bullshit should not be tolerated. The ingredient name in question is only one word, instead of the stupid sentence they used.

It’s xylitol. Shame on every shitbag sellout that decided to not just say that in the headline.

[–] davetortoise@reddthat.com 10 points 2 days ago (1 children)

I don't know, I think it's appropriate. If they just said Xylitol hardly anyone is actually going to know what that is or if it affects them. The title gives people an idea of how common it is and what foods it's used in, which is more useful information to most people.

[–] frongt@lemmy.zip 19 points 2 days ago

Xylitol, sweetener used in chewing gum and jam, linked to strokes and heart attacks

There, best of both worlds.

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[–] bigbangdangler@reddthat.com 88 points 2 days ago (10 children)

“In this observational work, however, it appears that xylitol has a negative long-term effect on cardiovascular events in the general population. As with all observational studies, causalities are difficult to infer, but this work shows that further studies are mandated into this societally important topic.”

This is important, because the outcome of the study is: we need more studies. It is not that xylitol has been shown to be dangerous, a jump so many comments have made.

There was an observed effect in people who had "high blood levels of xylitol". But there were few if any other controls:

The researchers also highlighted that the association was independent of underlying factors such as body mass index, hypertension, diabetes and lipid levels, which might predispose people to low-calorie products.

It's been known for a while that extremely high levels of xylitol can act as a diuretic, but that's true of a lot of other things, too. That's also not relevant here. It's important to not jump to unwarranted conclusions until more proper studies are conducted.

[–] ericatty@infosec.pub 10 points 2 days ago

How can you ignore diabetes and the other risk factors that lead to using sugar-free products and are huge risk factors in themselves?

At least exclude certain ones.

Plenty of people use xyitol products for other reasons. For instance, I just bought a pack of xylitol gum to carry because I won't be able to brush my teeth during the day. Gum with sugar makes my teeth feel worse.

Exclude smokers and people with uncontrolled diabetes and cholesterol at least.

Study the gym goers that want to eat their sugar as treats and use xylitol drinks or breath mints daily.

How much caffeine was in everyone's system? Alcohol? Were the other blood level markers in range?

With no controls, it could be anything. Maybe they were all covering cigarette and beer breath with mints when they had a cardiac event.

I hate studies like this.

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[–] Proprietary_Blend@lemmy.world 164 points 3 days ago (3 children)
[–] comrade_twisty@feddit.org 40 points 3 days ago (4 children)

That shit is killing dogs too. Should've been banned long time ago.

[–] Fmstrat@lemmy.world 3 points 15 hours ago

In small quantities it massively helps periodontal disease, which has way worse risks. Banning something for one reason without context hurts others.

[–] Taldan@lemmy.world 31 points 3 days ago

It's basically anti-freeze to dogs. Kills them quickly and painfully from even relatively small amounts

[–] dadarobot@lemmy.sdf.org 17 points 2 days ago (2 children)
[–] FauxPseudo@lemmy.world 28 points 2 days ago (8 children)

They don't sneak chocolate into peanut butter and people use peanut butter as a dog treat it as a way to hide medication from dogs.

Xylitol shouldn't be used in any product a dog might be tempted to eat. And dogs love peanut butter.

[–] VibeSurgeon@piefed.social 3 points 2 days ago

Be that as it may, you shouldn't feed dogs non-dog food.

Dogs are tempted to eat practically speaking everything that humans eat, we've been using them as cleanup crew for millenia

[–] Thor_Whale@lemmus.org 10 points 2 days ago (1 children)

It's amazing that you can actually buy peanut butter that is just strictly peanut butter, no additives. 🤷

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[–] ratofkryll@sh.itjust.works 13 points 2 days ago

The fatal dose is significantly lower for xylitol. If my 90 lb dog ate a few pieces of chocolate, he might be miserable for a few days and need a vet visit, but it would take a lot to be fatal. If he ate a few pieces of gum, it could make him much, much sicker or kill him.

[–] VibeSurgeon@piefed.social 2 points 2 days ago

The one does clearly not follow the other here

[–] Nomad@infosec.pub 23 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (12 children)

Xylotol in small amounts tastes sweet and kills the bacteria breaking you teeth. In large quantities it makes you shit hit liquid.

Edit: hit should have been hot as in burning, 37C not erotic. ;)

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[–] brackled@lemmy.world 108 points 2 days ago (3 children)

It is important to note that this was an observational study, meaning it can only show an association between higher xylitol levels and cardiovascular events, rather than proving that xylitol directly caused them, and further research is needed. But it is not a green light to have more sugar instead, as we still need to reduce our free sugar intake

Correlation vs Causation caveat is strongly needed here

[–] BillyClark@piefed.social 15 points 2 days ago

Another note is that this is a sweetener, so it replaces sugar, and sugar is also linked to strokes and heart attacks through diabetes and obesity.

[–] fireweed@lemmy.world 20 points 2 days ago

Nearly all dietary studies are correlation studies, unfortunately.

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[–] Strider@lemmy.world 1 points 1 day ago

OK now this could explain the issues I've been having, like unexpected dying.

(using xylitol for a few years now and the root cause has not been found)

[–] harambe69@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 1 day ago

Fuck, I just started chewing dental gum with Xylitol for help with my teeth.

[–] Varesti@lemmy.zip 9 points 2 days ago

Xylitol also kills dogs, so, whatever this study says, at least keep it away from your dogs.

[–] anon_8675309@lemmy.world 4 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Isn’t this the ingredient In a lot of foods that are said to be diabetic friendly?

[–] shirro@aussie.zone 7 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (1 children)

Sugar alcohols are in a huge number of processed foods and might be responsible for a non negligible number of people feeling like shit. Fairly sure a local family owned bakery reduced some amount of sugar in their baked goods with sugar alcohols and it is not advertised and no ingredient list required unlike supermarkets. It is getting hard to escape stuff like this.

[–] Tollana1234567@lemmy.today 1 points 1 day ago

it literally makes poop alot.

[–] minorkeys@sh.itjust.works 9 points 2 days ago

So glad we let companies sell us whatever poison hasn't had enough research yet to show it's unsafe...

[–] HumanOnEarth@lemmy.ca 14 points 3 days ago (4 children)

Heard this about Erithrytol as well. Not sure if that one is as confirmed. Cove Soda uses it, and I'm reluctant even though it's tasty and Canadian.

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