Sometimes there's a final spice level called "Indian hot"
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There's actually a level beyond that, and it's called Andhra spicy.
The whole discourse over chilli heat is so moribund. Just eat stuff you like the flavour of, or eat stuff that makes your pain receptors go off if that’s what you like - it’s all fine.
Yes but the problem is finding out stuff from label what it could taste like. I've had 5 out 5 chilli stuff that tasted relatively quite normal to me, problem was I was craving something spicy. So I would appreciate some kind of universal spice level. I don't mind if I am on 3/10 or something. Just don't want to see 5/5 chilli taste mild.
Problems with rating like that would be people like this colleague of mine. He refuses to accept my spice tolerance is moderate like mine, he will go and buy stuff 5/5 chilli so he can feel he can eat spicy. And I suspect these 5/5 mild items are market towards people like him.
I grew up Cajun level spicy. I hate you jerks in the north that drag my spice tolerance reputation through the mud. White cajun spicy is the same as Indian spicy. A couple days ago a coworker from new jersey and I ordered the same "spicy" meal on a business trip. He couldn't finish it because it was too hot for him and I was irritated because it barely qualified as mild to me.
I'm so white that ghosts consider me pale, but I've never eaten food at a restaurant that's too spicy for me, and it annoys me every time I try a new place and I ask for "level 5 spicy" or whatever they call it on the menu and they're like "Okay - we start you out with a 2".
I know what I'm about. I want to burp in 2 hours and have my tongue start burning. Later this evening, I want to regret my life choices on the toilet.
So, where does mayo fall on that? /s
I once went to a restaurant with spice levels "Norse politics, American politics, Mexican politics, Indian politics"
Mexican politics are definitely spicier than Indian politics. In Mexico, politicians are often killed by gangs for opposing the gangs. Indian politics are still spicier than American politics though, because in India the government can raid and shut down news organizations for criticising the government.
Dunno. American politics are pretty spicy right now.
When I first went to an Indian restaurant, they asked whether we want "European" or "Indian" spice level food. One of us was brave, he ordered Vindaloo, "Indian". We others stayed "European". And he huffed, and he puffed, ....
I love seeing the variety in the takes on how bad "India hot" spice level is.
My limited anecdotal experience has landed my white ass firmly in the camp of "do not fuck with the flavors of back home."
My go-to core memory on that one is going out for wings with a group of friends a long time ago. We ordered a half dozen of whatever the place's ridiculous triple-atomic or equivalent was. I want to say 500,000 scoville and they give you gloves to eat it with. I think the deal was something like White Guy eats one of the wings and Indian Guy eats the rest, after the latter had claimed in a friendly way that they wouldn't be too hot.
Long story short, Indian Guy eats all available wings and licks his fingers like it's honey BBQ. He liked them and said yeah they do have some spice. White guy ruined the entire rest of his day and suffered for his hubris!
Most of the rest of us (I think all of us were additional White Guys) tried a tiny little piece of a wing or even just a half drop of the sauce. The spot where that little bit touched my tongue was numb and tingly for the rest of the day, lol.
Some people just shrug off that capsaicin.
All the wing places near me are crap, they have Atomic it's not even tabasco hot. I don't know how, but even their fucking jalapenos are weak.
Once upon a time, I was traveling in Thailand and went to a small restaurant in the middle of nowhere that mostly served tourists. There were two guys there who thought they could handle spice, so they told the waiter to bring them something spiced for Thai locals. He tried to discourage them, and offered to give them something that was really spicy for westerners, but they insisted that they wanted what locals eat.
When they received their dish, they couldn't even manage a single bite. I could overhear them, and they were convinced that the waiter was playing a joke on them, so when he came back they asked him to try it to see if it was good, trying to catch him out. The waiter had a few bites, said "yeah, tastes good", asked if they needed anything else, and when they said no, just went on to help his other customers. The tourists were just gobsmacked.
I know my limits, and decently high for "The West", but it's nowhere near the limits of a Thai person who likes spicy food. And, I know enough to know that when I'm on vacation, I want it even less spicy than normal. If I get something ultra spicy at home, I might have to spend some unpleasant time on the toilet. But, at least it's my own toilet. I really didn't want to be caught out in some rural Thai toilet or outhouse trying to process something that was too much for me and missing out on enjoying my vacation.
Recently I was invited to a Diwali party by an Indian friend. I am very much a white American, and I don't eat a ton of Indian food because frankly I don't like the taste. I was warned profusely that one of the dishes was super spicy, but I like spice so I gave it a go. I was worried it was going to be crazy hot... It literally had some jalapeno in it. It was not spicy at all. They were all looking at me like they couldn't believe I was eating it because it was so spicy, and some said they couldn't even eat it. I eat a ton of spicy Mexican food, and frankly this dish didn't hold a candle to the salsa roja at my local taqueria, so I'm not sure I buy this scale based on my extremely limited experience.
I don’t eat a ton of Indian food because frankly I don’t like the taste
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More for u big dawg. I'll eat it when my friend has parties so I don't look rude, but it's literally my least favorite cuisine. I don't like curry, and something about it, idk, maybe the Ghee, or some spice my body isn't used to? Makes me shit uncontrollably the next day, and frankly the taste isn't good enough to make that tradeoff. There's a handful of things I enjoy like samosas and naan, but honestly, most of it is mid imo.
As a millenial brown dude I can definitely see this happening. Basically all the feedback I got growing up was that white (and some Asian) people cannot handle the spice in our food which is why it was often made fun of (along with Mexican food). A lot has changed since then but there is an innate reflex to tell white and some East Asian friends and colleagues to be careful with it and it's hard to break. No one wants to see another person get ill from their food simply because their digestive tract is not accustomed to it.
It's very similar to the reflex that makes me stop my toddler from eating anything with spice but then she actually likes it and I'm like oh yeah, that tracks, you're a mini version of me 😆.
I will say that palates universally have broadened in the past few decades. When I was growing up it wasn't uncommon to see people (even grown adults) physically recoil, make faces or pinch their noses in the presence of Indian food and a lot of folks have really stepped up their game since then.
My parents are firmly in the camp of "Indian food is too strange and/or hot". My wife and I love Indian food, though she can handle far more heat than me.
We took my parents out to our favorite restaurant, and while they ate their meals and expanded their horizons, they also made a lot of faces, didn't finish it all, and insisted we could keep their leftovers lol.
If I had to guess, they might've gotten burgers after we parted ways 🤣
Different generations, at least they tried.
My biggest pet peeve is people who won't even entertain the idea of something new being good.
That was my mom when I took her to a Korean restaurant.
Indian spicy is itself a spectrum. People from South India laugh at what north Indians usually call spicy. I can only barely handle south indian spicy food but I can usually handle spicy anything else.
I visited Hyderabad recently and didn't struggle with any dish that was made for me. I told them to make it spicy as well, and I asked my friends to verify that it actually was spicy.
I think most Americans are just cry babies. Now, the food poisoning did fuck me up, real bad. That was a very quick 'no I think I go home now'.
Yep seems to check out, I remember eating the spiciest food of my life in Sri Lanka, couldn't quite finish my dish even though it tasted awesome. Too strong