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A collection of some classic Lemmy memes for your enjoyment
Arch is different...
Every hero has a journey.
Yours has just begun.
I warn you, this is not the easy path.
But I urge you to heed the call.
For though there will be trials and tribulations,
soon, my friend, you will own new socks.
This hasn't been a thing in years at this point
"No way to prevent this" says only distro where this regularly happens
To be honest, I'm a firm believer that if it's considered required to read the news file for updating then the update tool should be printing that information for you. I used to have a hook that did it, but it was flaky. Also, I saw the creator mention that due to the design of the hooks, it happens too late in the process for some manual intervention to be done properly. But because everyone in Arch has such an obsession with "no bloat" I doubt we'll ever see pacman have that feature.
News from this year:
varnish, which is renamed to vinyl-cache (it's a proxy, only affects servers)Repost.
Also, my Mint install broke, uh, shit I don't remember, 5 times? Arch broke zero times. Zero times not my own fault for forgetting I was installing something and shutting off the computer, of course. Except for the times I tried the fucking installer python script, but since I never even booted the install it doesn't count.
Mint broke for you? That's the first I've heard of it.
Also if you have a habit of shutting down the PC during updates, check out atomic/immutable distros. They are almost impossible to break. You can pull the power during an update and it'll be fine.
Mint breaks weirdly often but also it's inconsistent in my experience. It's a great example of it explodes for some people and others it's a god like entity of perfection. Never in-between. Lol
If you're running Virtualbox on Arch you deserve everything you get.
What's wrong with it?
Foot-guns are my PROTECTED SECOND AMENDMENT RIGHT.
Except the last arch news post is a month ago about virtualbox. I've blindly run pacman -Syu for years without issue
It's difficult to take people shitting on arch in here seriously. I'll take 1h per year fixing whatever broke over a whole weekend upgrading Debian.
Oh and god forbid you need to compile yourself a package and maybe a few of its dependencies from scratch because that 6 years old bug didn't make it through the freeze last release.
Whole weekend upgrading debian? I am confused. That's not how debian works?
Debian can take a week to upgrade? Apparently I’m yolo’ing it and just the upgrade. However I have just done one major update, so u might just be lucky
Yeah i had this happen with devices that originally came with Windows sometimes, mainly laptops. It must be a combo of BIOS, firmware and hardware that increases the chances of update instability. Its just not feasible for every distro to have the same kind of hardware config testing support that Microsoft has for Windows.
Windows spying on you is not just for marketing, they grab your current environment and sanitize the result so they can get a nice list of hardware and application configurations for when they need to test.
That's why I completely eliminated Windows from my life and switched to Linux.
Idk, I've had installs of Kinoite, Bazzite, and NixOS bork themselves unrecoverably. Arch, if something goofs, more often than not I can work my way back to a working system without wiping.
I don't (and will never) use Arch, but I've heard nothing but how user-unfriendly it is. I don't look for posts about Arch; they just seem to find me -- like this one. I don't hear anything about other distros. Why do people use Arch? Does it offer some outlandish advantage that other distros don't? Is it for bragging rights? Seriously? I haven't heard a single good thing about it.
Arch is mainly for people who prefer instant updates on every software. Like developers, some hardcore gamers want to tweak their system too deep and have too much time to fix if it breaks.
Snapshots are a big relief, as they allow you to directly boot into the previous working version. But if the bootloader itself failed, you might need a live USB to fix it.
Arch is not bad or unfriendly at all. It allows users to deeply customize their system how they want it, and that's what causes an unstable system at the end. Also, the use of too many AUR softwares at the system level is another reason. It is not official. So by using AUR heavily, we can't guarantee it will work with other system software.
If you use Arch with snapshots and only install a minimal amount of AUR system-level software, then it's completely fine for daily use.
Other serious struggles.
Very new releases bring a lot of bugs. Recently I saw my screen was flashing when I opened settings. Also, crashes can occur constantly. You have to report it to get an immediate fix from developers.
Snapshots can take a fair amount of your storage. But you can control it in Snap.
AUR packages are not tested for their authenticity or security at all.
A breakage or failure to boot can terrify newbies. Unlike Fedora or Debian, there are no built-in recovery tools out of the box. Everything is the user's responsibility.
Arch is all about user freedom. All those crashes and failures are not too hard to fix, but you have to spend much time on them. If you have pre-cations like a live USB and snapshots, then there is nothing to worry about at all.
Unlike Windows, Linux demands users know it more and read long wiki pages, which is good in a sense.
Many people in the Linux community want their system built from scratch. So Arch stands in between, distributions like VoidLinux and Gentoo.
i use arch because i find it much easier to start from a system with just a tty and install software i need than to have a full distro and to find and remove packages that i don't want/need and replace them with the ones i need - makes maintenance easy and i know what's running on my system. it's also in my experience one of the few rare distros that package a non-broken fcitx5 which i rely on (but that's specific to my setup). and the build system is awesome. the community might be a bit harsh on people who post error messages to forums without any attempts at basic troubleshooting.
i expect that people who make these memes installed arch because they heard that it's a bleeding edge distro that all the kool kidz use, downloaded a bunch of packages from the AUR which messed up their dependencies after the update and now their system isn't booting right. if you don't skip updates for a long time and don't do weird tricks with system packages, arch might be genuinely one of the easiest distros once you get past the installation which can be tedious if you're used to automated installers.
I think it's like driving a manual transmission car in the US. You have more control and are more in tune with your car, but when you're stuck in bumper to bumper stop and go traffic it sucks ass. Similarly some people make it their identity and that's where the memes come from.
This, I can get behind. Excellent comparison.
https://archlinux.org/news/virtualbox-ext-vnc-7212-2-requires-manual-intervention/ dont worry you only need to shit your pants if you are using virtual box and dont read (sorry OP)
Why, what news? What I need to be careful this time?
Nothing. OP is imagining an idiot for imaginary internet points.