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[–] Insekticus@aussie.zone 170 points 3 weeks ago (35 children)

It really goes to show how both parties have been captured by corporate and religious interests, and everyone's on the take and making bank on insider trading.

Nearly the entire system is rotten, bar a few who seem to still be holding on to do good for the people (AOC, Bernie, Mamdani, El-Sayed, Tallarico, etc).

[–] earlgrey0@sh.itjust.works 51 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

Well it does feel like this cycle, more and more of the good folks are winning and showing what government can do for people. Here’s to hoping that they keep winning and take over.

[–] Instigate@aussie.zone 21 points 3 weeks ago

It’s going to be a question of momentum: will those on the left of the party keep pushing back against corporate interests and organising at a grassroots level. I sincerely hope that the momentum grows, but the power of the money being used against them is a pretty terrible beast. It’s definitely an interesting crossroads at the very least.

[–] ceenote@lemmy.world 24 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago)

"Get money out of politics" is only going to increase in popularity until there's some action. My concern is that a faux-populist democrat will become president, pass some empty reforms, declare victory, and then we'll be back here again in 15-20 years, when our democracy might be even weaker. OR that Republicans will end democracy before anything can happen.

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[–] stretch2m@infosec.pub 60 points 3 weeks ago (9 children)

I begged my congressman to support articles of impeachment. His response was basically that they don't have the votes, so why bother? He even said that if they did, it would be performative and would play into persecution rhetoric for Trump.

So that's where we are now. The only people with the political power to oust a tyrant have thrown in the towel.

I tried to reason with him that it matters. Even if they don't have the votes to convict. Impeach him once a week of you have to. Persecute the motherfucker!

But no, I guess re-election to Congress is more important.

Fucking joke.

[–] Almacca@aussie.zone 32 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago)

I tried to reason with him that it matters. Even if they don’t have the votes to convict. Impeach him once a week of you have to. Persecute the motherfucker!

100% agree. Performative it may be, but doing it every single time he does something to warrant it, which is daily at this point, at least sends a message that this shit is unacceptable. Doing nothing is tacitly agreeing with it. It's baffling.

[–] skisnow@lemmy.ca 23 points 2 weeks ago

would play into persecution rhetoric for Trump.

The whole fucking point of him doing the persecution rhetoric is to stop people attacking him, and they've played right into his hands.

[–] OwOarchist@pawb.social 15 points 2 weeks ago

And look at the vote for releasing the Epstein files! Obviously, they 'didn't have the votes' for that, either ... but once they tried, even a bunch of Republicans were on board.

At least fucking try.

[–] grue@lemmy.world 13 points 2 weeks ago

~~Persecute~~ Prosecute the motherfucker!

FTFY. It's only "persecute" if it's unjust.

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[–] Malyca@lemmy.zip 49 points 2 weeks ago

They are complicit controlled opposition. Their only job is to keep the left out of power. That's why they're more upset about socialists than Trump, ultimately Trump is on their side and the socialists are not.

[–] huppakee@lemmy.world 44 points 2 weeks ago (9 children)

Increasingly more popular opinion: the US government takeover committed by the Trump oligarchy is as much the result of incompetence of the Democratic party as it was a plan of evil 'geniuses'.

[–] BlackLaZoR@lemmy.world 11 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

I'd say it's entirely dems fault as they were dropping the ball consistently since years. Trump should've been an easy opponent but he ended up as president second time

[–] mirshafie@europe.pub 11 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

People wanted change. Trump promised change, the democrats promised more of the same.

Maybe democrats should promise change?

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[–] ImgurRefugee114@reddthat.com 36 points 3 weeks ago

The D's want what R's want, but they just want to make sure the paperwork is filed properly first, and will probably do it while wearing a rainbow pin.

[–] Akh@lemmy.world 32 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

The democratic elite are in bed with Epstein

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[–] Leviathan@lemmy.world 31 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)

Trump helps rich people. Establishment Dems are either owned by, or terrified of rich people.

That's it. Simple.

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[–] hayvan@piefed.world 31 points 2 weeks ago

Because they are, for the most part, wealth class. Average citizen getting robbed or screwed over isn't a concern.

Why rock the boat and risk getting noticed in a negative way when you can do nothing and enjoy your privileged place!

[–] bad1080@piefed.social 26 points 2 weeks ago (5 children)

it's almost like a two party system was a bad idea

[–] rumba@lemmy.zip 16 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)

It's not a two-party system. It's a one-party system disguised as a two-party system.

It's not the Democrats vs the Republicans

It's the oligarchs vs the people.

The democratic party is overflowing with oligarch sychophants.

Congress is full of people who will talk about progressive points, then vote the other way.

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[–] ShutUpWesley@piefed.zip 25 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

The Democrats and Republicans are owned and controlled by the same wealthy douchebags.

[–] OwOarchist@pawb.social 13 points 2 weeks ago

With a high degree of overlap to the Epstein client list.

[–] skvlp@feddit.nl 24 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

This is absolutely on to something. Trump should not stand a chance against a viable opposing party.

So long as any parties funding is coming from corporations, and citizens united stands... Not much will be done in terms of bettering society for the working class.

An easy way to look at it is the working class if above the line, the people who own the parties rely on what's below the line.

Those people have proven over and over they believe in making massive cuts to make the numbers below the line go up, even if they were making profit and churning out a good product. Making a worse product, and hurting those who work for you company doesn't matter, so long as number go up.

[–] Almacca@aussie.zone 21 points 3 weeks ago

They're doing exactly the job they're being paid for.

[–] MonkRome@lemmy.world 21 points 2 weeks ago (4 children)

I want to preface this by saying that I think the democrats have no fucking idea how to do messaging and opposition.

But even if they did, we live in a system that wants their message to be ignored. Anything a politician says that is bad for business will not be televised. Or twisted to make them sound crazy. They have to oppose a regime that has nearly 100% of major media at least begrudgingly supporting if not enthusiastically.

I used to work in politics, it is next to impossible to get your message out if people with money don't want your message heard. The most important messaging is free media, as in the news and social media. Both of those have heavy corporate backing trying to control the narrative. Even the most progressive DSA politician has a hell of a time getting their real message through a controlled information stream.

The Dumbocrats are perpetual failures mixed in with some dino's but the media is a bigger issue, imo.

[–] JasonDJ@lemmy.zip 12 points 2 weeks ago

They have to oppose a regime that has nearly 100% of major media at least begrudgingly supporting if not enthusiastically.

This is the biggest problem. And it's not just legacy media, but also modern media. Zuck, Musk, and fucking Spez control basically all the social media that isn't the fediverse. All fascists or fascist-wannabes.

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[–] jve@lemmy.world 20 points 2 weeks ago (3 children)
[–] ErrorCode@lemmy.world 12 points 2 weeks ago

The Dems exist to prevent the rightward slide from ever shifting back. That is why they fight harder against progressives than Republicans.

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[–] Tollana1234567@lemmy.today 20 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

the DINO party serves the billionaires, and israel mostly.

[–] uriel238@lemmy.blahaj.zone 16 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)

Until the genocide, everyone served Israel.

I stand by my observation Israel is not a Jewish nation, it's a owner-class nation.

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[–] Rivalarrival@lemmy.today 14 points 2 weeks ago (5 children)

Democrats have been setting out to lose since Obama left office. Trump 2020 was the only one to beat them at their own game.

[–] CarpalTunnelButt@sh.itjust.works 11 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago)

Oh, they were losing while Obama was president too. A Supreme Court Justice and the Heritage Foundation's health insurance reforms (aka Obamacare/ACA) come to mind.

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[–] P38lightning0520@feddit.online 13 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

They not just sitting there.

Lawrence,Massachusetts Democratic Mayor Brian DePenna was just arrested for stealing over $1.2 million of Covid relief funds.

Democrats have been hard at work enriching themselves.

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[–] Hell_nah_brother@thelemmy.club 13 points 2 weeks ago (7 children)

Instead of attacking? Are you cowboys ok? Apparently you still don’t understand shit if this is the trash that gets posted. Wake. The. Fuck. Up.

You live in a violent dictatorship, there is no voting system you fucking dipshits.

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[–] wrinkledoo@sh.itjust.works 12 points 2 weeks ago (34 children)

I think democrats are controlled opposition, but do people not understand that they currently aren't in power?

The fed is run by the GOP. Dems are only enough of a problem that Trump has to write EOs for every goddamned thing.

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[–] kreskin@lemmy.world 10 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

DNC loves trump. It lets them be awful and corrupt right up the point of being only slightly better than trump, and think they can get away with it.

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