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[–] ParadoxSeahorse@lemmy.world 129 points 6 days ago (1 children)

All hidden cameras should be illegal, I don’t care about your “hands free convenience”

This is like anti pervert laws 101

[–] AmbitiousProcess@piefed.social 36 points 6 days ago (1 children)

Yep. If you want to record everything going on from your POV, strap a GoPro to your head and see if people's moods change about it. If they clearly don't want that, they don't want the "convenient" hidden cameras either. Simple as that.

[–] A_Random_Idiot@lemmy.world 14 points 6 days ago

They don't want people knowing they are being recorded.

A gopro or a phone held up is basically an indicator of recording happening, which people can choose to avoid if they want to.

But pervert glasses don't hold up that signal, and the pathetic attempt to make a signal (the LED) is easily covered or otherwise bypassed so you can creep on people without them ever knowing.

[–] lemmelemmy@feddit.org 48 points 6 days ago

I love the fact lately meta glasses are called pervert glasses constantly.

[–] nulluser@lemmy.world 57 points 6 days ago (2 children)

conference organizers said they have imposed a ban on “Meta-style glasses with recording capabilities.”

Dammit. I was hoping they explicitly called them "pervert glasses" like the headline suggested.

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[–] mlg@lemmy.world 48 points 6 days ago (5 children)

I like how these only became a problem because Meta made them which meant a bunch of morons bought it.

Hidden and pinhole cameras have been a commercially available thing for decades, even on glasses.

Hell they even made one as a kids toy you could buy.

[–] Flatfire@lemmy.ca 39 points 6 days ago

Well, morons bought it and the device is directly connected to a data harvesting company. I think that has more to do with it. One lone weirdo with a hidden camera and a home server isn't the same kind of boogeyman

[–] raze2012@lemmy.world 23 points 6 days ago

only became a problem because Meta made them

Anyone who remember "glassholes" knows this isn't new. Wearing a camera on your literal eyes is still a step too far in this otherwise compromised world.

But yes, I think the big issue here, as others pointed out, has to do with the nature of the company producing them. That'd be especially important for a place like DEFCON, which is all about securing your data.

[–] Psythik@lemmy.world 9 points 6 days ago

It's not the cameras that are the problem, however, it's the companies behind them that I take issue with. It's one thing to be spied on by a camera, it's another thing when data collected from that camera feed is then sold to anyone who is buying. That's what I have a problem with. The cameras themselves aren't the issue.

[–] Tollana1234567@lemmy.today 8 points 6 days ago

everyone remember google glasses: spying, watching porn was all anyone could think someone is wearing it.

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[–] YeahToast@aussie.zone 28 points 6 days ago (5 children)

I personally hate the fact that capatilists have fucked our trust so much we can't have augmented reality glasses. I was really looking forward to that.

[–] RememberTheApollo_@lemmy.world 19 points 6 days ago

If they were only just that, AR.

Instead they’re “record everyone around you without their consent and post the footage online without their consent to be commented on and shared by others” glasses.

[–] Landless2029@lemmy.world 6 points 5 days ago (2 children)

These camera lenses are nowhere near AR.

MS HoloLens was the closest we got and it was targeted at businesses. Flopped badly. Died.

[–] muusemuuse@sh.itjust.works 5 points 5 days ago (1 children)

If someone other than Microsoft managed it, it might have gone farther, honestly. Nobody kills a good idea as efficiently as Microsoft.

[–] lordbritishbusiness@lemmy.world 5 points 5 days ago (1 children)

MS usually does it before anyone else, releases a product, fails to market it, product dies to exec cutback, then three years later Apple does it and it's amazing.

[–] muusemuuse@sh.itjust.works 2 points 4 days ago

Apples business models has always been about figuring out why something a competitor did flopped then fixing the flaw (either by improving the tech or just better marketing and management). The industry feeds apple as much as they steal from it. It's a slow grown company.

Microsoft is basically "we were really aggressive back in the day, established a monopoly everybody hates, and cannot figure out how to compete with modern alternatives in a way that won't piss off investors".

Apple is no saint, but they never lied about what they were doing. Microsoft, on the other hand, deserved everything that happened to them.

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[–] DarkCloud@lemmy.world 27 points 6 days ago (2 children)
[–] NihilsineNefas@slrpnk.net 9 points 6 days ago (6 children)

While useful, I would not want my device to be constantly pinging every device around it with wifi, bluetooth, or whatever other radio signal, on the off chance it might catch someone wearing the most groucho marx looking spyglasses on the planet when my own eyes can do that for me.

If not for the sake of my battery life, then for the same reason why I dont leave my bluetooth or wifi on- less avenues for people nearby to gain easy remote access to my device.

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iOS version: https://apps.apple.com/us/app/nearby-glasses-original/id6761056896

I see some others in the iOS app store that claim to detect nearby "smart" glasses via BLE. I have not tested any of them, so I have no opinion on their usefulness, reliability, privacy, etc:

Nearby Glasses (same name, different app): https://apps.apple.com/us/app/nearby-glasses/id6776279207
Nearby Lens: Glasses Detector: https://apps.apple.com/us/app/nearby-lens-glasses-detector/id6760046620
NoGlasshole: Glasses Detector: https://apps.apple.com/us/app/noglasshole-glasses-detector/id6760988897
Nearby Glasses Ray-Ban Scanner (in-app subscription required): https://apps.apple.com/us/app/nearby-glasses-ray-ban-scanner/id6760216782

They better get ready on finding these idiots because now they got people who remove the LED lights.

[–] WhosMansIsThis@lemmy.world 39 points 6 days ago (1 children)

I prefer the term 'pedofocals'

[–] 0x0@lemmy.zip 19 points 6 days ago (1 children)

Glasdhole still tracks, regardless of brand.

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[–] minorkeys@sh.itjust.works 32 points 6 days ago* (last edited 6 days ago) (3 children)

So have shirt that says, "If you can read this, you may be recorded for your safety and for quality assurance purposes." That's what corporations do, right? Should solve the concerns?

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[–] TryingToBeGood@reddthat.com 28 points 6 days ago

San Diego ComiCon banned them, and Dragoncon is going to ban them.

[–] BarneyPiccolo@lemmy.today 14 points 6 days ago

PervSpecs®

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