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An important difference between Wayland and X11 is that Wayland by concept combines window manager and compositor. That made it harder to write simple or experimental window managers for Wayland, such as StumpWM or i3.

River is a compositor for Wayland that supports implementing a window manager separately, with an independent window placement paradigm, in an arbitrary language.

Here is the wiki page listing window managers for river:

https://codeberg.org/river/wiki/src/branch/main/pages/wm-list.md

The ones I find most interesting are mousetrap and mopotamo - I am a big fan of StumpWMs manual tiling and configurability.

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[–] _hovi_@lemmy.world 8 points 1 month ago (2 children)

Cool idea, love the variety something like this brings. Anyone here daily drive one of these?

[–] vividspecter@aussie.zone 6 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Nope, but I hope this pans out. I've been using Sway for a few years, and while I don't mind it, I've always preferred XMonad's window management and configurability. exwm outside of X11 would also be nice.

[–] _hovi_@lemmy.world 5 points 1 month ago

I liked xmonad quite a lot too, though I never did get into Haskell enough to actually customise it all that much. I think it was called monocle layout, but man I've felt that lack of it since moving to Wayland

[–] ZoDoneRightNow@kbin.earth 2 points 1 month ago

I daily drive river-classic (pre separation of wm and compositor). Will switch to one of these at some point

[–] far_university1990@reddthat.com 3 points 1 month ago

This the only thing keep me on x11. Cannot restart gnome shell because mutter and server baked together.

[–] cymor@midwest.social 1 points 1 month ago (1 children)

I like river WMs like Niro on my laptop. It doesn't work for me on a multi monitor setup, though.

[–] Waryle@jlai.lu 1 points 1 month ago (1 children)

You mean Niri? I do use it with 2 monitors, and very different ones (one 32" 21/9 1440p and one 14" 16/9 1080p) without any issue

What problem do you have?

[–] cymor@midwest.social 1 points 1 month ago

Haha autocorrect fail.The multi monitor setup was on a work machine. My work is a completely different workflow. Niri worked perfectly.

Waiting for a smithay version of something like this with all of hyprlands features as my endgame compositor.