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Today, lovely Windows 11 installed an update. And since then I don't have internet access because Microslop Wincrap 11 can somehow magically no longer connect to the DNS server - to any DNS server. No other device in my network has the same issue. I've been bugfixing for over an hour and haven't found a solution. setting the DNS manually, resetting the network adapter, flushed all DNS entries (I used the commandline tool on Windows!). nothing works.

I don't have ANY more patience with W11!

I already tried Linux. I'm using Ubuntu Server for hosting Nextcloud and Fedora just to play around.

Do you prefer Fedora or Ubuntu? I have an old Thinkpad...

(And no, I will not go down the rabbit hole of Arch ;-) At least not for now.)

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[–] GutterRat42@lemmy.world 2 points 11 hours ago

Fuck Ubuntu, move to Linux Mint Debian Edition or Debian.

[–] liking625@lemmy.world 2 points 12 hours ago

I mentioned it recently somewhere else, there is rush in plugging a USB with whatever linux and select the option to erase the whole disk when previously installed thing is Windows.

[–] RaftDespairPoise@lemmy.zip 2 points 13 hours ago (1 children)

Tried Fedora, tried Ubuntu, tried Mint, tried Debian, tried flavors of Arch that don’t make the install process take an hour.

They all suck compared to openSUSE Tumbleweed. Rolling release with good hardware support out of the box and snapshots/easy rollback coupled with extensive testing before each release? It’s the winner for beginners, and it’s not even close.

The first time a user gets the itch to learn Linux and go deeper and borks their install, they will hate any distro without snapshotting.

The first time an immutable distro user needs to install OEM drivers, they will hate their distro.

I used to recommend Linux Mint, and I still would maybe to those I know will never ever open the console.

For everyone else, openSUSE Tumbleweed all day everyday and twice on Sunday.

[–] spacehedgehog@lemmy.world 1 points 12 hours ago

Thanks, I'll keep openSUSE Tumbleweed in mind. I think I'm going to try this after two weeks of Mint

[–] BlameTheAntifa@lemmy.world 16 points 1 day ago

Fedora is wonderful. I would not recommend Ubuntu to anyone. Fuck Canonical, who fancy themselves the next Microsoft.

For an easy version of Arch, try Cachy.

[–] spacehedgehog@lemmy.world 7 points 1 day ago (3 children)

Thank you all for the many replies!

I'll summarize it as followed:

  • Ubumtu: one does not use Ubuntu any more
  • Linux Mint: always a good start
  • Fedora: also always good and would be good for a Thinkpad
  • Bazzite for gaming
  • Gnome really is not for everyone

Since I already tried Fedora, I'm going with Linux Mint for the moment.

(In fact, the installation of Mint is running right now and I'm using the whole SSD, no windows boot manager partition will survive!!!)

[–] RaftDespairPoise@lemmy.zip 3 points 13 hours ago

Give openSUSE Tumbleweed a shot.

[–] KneeTitts@lemmy.world 3 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

Linux Mint: always a good start

Started and stopped there, I love it and never even think about windows anymore

[–] Skullgrid@lemmy.world 3 points 1 day ago

LMDE or ubuntu based? I'd recommend LMDE over ubuntu based

[–] prole@lemmy.blahaj.zone 11 points 1 day ago
[–] btsax@reddthat.com 10 points 1 day ago

Ubuntu? What is this, 2008?

Don't settle immediately. If you can spare the time, distro hop for a few weeks / months. On the shorter run of things, give each OS you try a good week before moving on to the next. All distros do essentially the same thing, they just flavor it diffetently. Do you like typing apt, or dnf, pacman or yum? Do you prefer being deep in CLI or prefer using an application store? How do you like your userspace to look? Shiny? Bubbly? Classic? Retro? GNOME, Plasma, Xfce, Mate, Cosmic?

There's enough options out there to make your head spin. Without touching arch, you should at least visit the following -

Little Champs

  • Mint
  • Zorin
  • Endeavour
  • Pop OS

Big Champs

Gaming focus

  • Bazzite (fedora)
  • Nobara (fedora)
  • Cachy (arch)

Give each or those that pique your interest a fair shake. A week at the minimum. Some you may not need a week, some you'll find yourself in a natural swing of things. You'll know when you know.

[–] ohshit604@sh.itjust.works 17 points 2 days ago
[–] busted_Anoose@aussie.zone 6 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Im using linux Mint. no issues so far, except maybe dropbox integration. never going back to microslop

[–] ksh@aussie.zone 1 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

Love Linux Mint. I switched to LMDE, stable as a rock. PC came with windows installed. Removed crapware immediately.

[–] mlg@lemmy.world 15 points 2 days ago

Highly recommend Fedora over Ubuntu.

Ubuntu Server and Desktop has some dumb defaults that look measly next to Windows, but still annoying next to Fedora.

Fedora also generally has more solid documentation without a bunch of LTS slag threads with outdated answers.

[–] slazer2au@lemmy.world 28 points 2 days ago (8 children)

I am a Debian man myself for servers. I don't want any Canonical bullshit to break mid LTS.

While I am still running win 10 I am undecided which desktop to switch to. CachyOS and Fedora are the front runners but man do I hate Gnome.

[–] ohshit604@sh.itjust.works 8 points 2 days ago

Debian for everything.

[–] gaiussabinus@lemmy.world 9 points 2 days ago (1 children)

I use cachyOS with kde plasma on wayland right now and would recommend.

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[–] spacehedgehog@lemmy.world 7 points 2 days ago (3 children)

I'm not a big fan of Gnome on Fedora either. Everything is just so big and needs so much space. CachyOS is a tad to new for my taste for using it as a daily driver.

[–] derbolle@lemmy.world 12 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (2 children)

why not fedora KDE? it is a full edition now and a really smooth experience

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CatchyOS being bleeding edge has actually alleviated a lot of my complaints with Ubuntu/Fedora. Sometimes I really want that brand new shiny thing. And so far I haven't had too many issues with Catchy breaking. Granted I only run it on my testing laptop not my main machine.

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[–] giacomo@lemmy.dbzer0.com 4 points 1 day ago

fedora > ubuntu

personally, i like the ublue images, at least for general desktop and gaming - bluefin and bazzite.

[–] tristynalxander@mander.xyz 4 points 1 day ago

I think the standard recommendation for people coming from windows is to try Linux Mint. It's Ubuntu based, but the interface is more windows like, which helps easy the transition. The transition is also easied if you've been using open source alternatives on windows or the linux for windows subsystem. Anything to keep the amount you have to learn at once relatively low.

I wish you the best on linux, but if you find the interface differences are too much for you and decide to go back to windows, try these other things to make switching to linux later easier. As fanatical as the linux community is, there's no shame in needing a longer more gradual transition.

[–] eruchitanda@lemmy.world 12 points 2 days ago (4 children)

Not Ubuntu. Mint or Fedora.

You like Gnome (how everything looks in Ubuntu)? Use Fedroa Workstation, or use Mint and install Gnome yourself.

This is only my opinion. After all, this is your computer; do what you want.

[–] imecth@fedia.io 2 points 1 day ago

It's typically not a good idea to install a DE that is not supported by your distribution, Mint just repackages upstream gnome - is it ubuntu's vanilla gnome or debian's btw? Either way you're just ending up with an old ass GNOME package that's untested on your distro.

If you're interested in GNOME get a distro that ships it and supports it, which is pretty much all of them minus Mint.

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[–] spacehedgehog@lemmy.world 14 points 2 days ago (1 children)

and sorry for the ragebait. I'm just a little bit frustrated and had to write it down

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[–] negativenull@piefed.world 8 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (1 children)

Bazzite on my gaming machine, Bluefin on my other machines. Both are Fedora Atomic based (meaning read-only kernel). Secure, stable, amazing. Apps are installed via Flatpak, and cli tools using Homebrew.

I've been a full time Linux user for 25ish years now. I'm currently happy here, but have tried most of them

[–] prole@lemmy.blahaj.zone 2 points 1 day ago (5 children)

I've been on Bazzite for like 2 years now, and I've never (purposely) used Brew. What kinds of things do you use it for?

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[–] cenzorrll@piefed.ca 7 points 2 days ago

I had a great experience with Fedora on my thinkpad, it's almost as if they're made for each other. It's basically the testing version for Redhat. If you want something more stable and still enterprisey, Rocky Linux or Almalinux are both basically RHEL rebranded.

I've abandoned Ubuntu, even though it was what I started on and used for over a decade. Canonical is kind of like the Microsoft of linux right now, a bit hostile toward the rest of the community, but still an acceptable choice. I would recommend Linux Mint instead, though.

Keep in mind that the look and feel you'll experience is all the desktop environment, so if you don't like it, trying using a different one instead of looking at a new distro. I highly recommend using a few live USBs of what you want you try before installing to get a feel for what you like.

[–] hperrin@lemmy.ca 7 points 2 days ago

Fedora. Better than Ubuntu in pretty much every regard.

[–] JizzmasterD@lemmy.ca 8 points 2 days ago

I didn’t want to program shit; I don’t care about command line; I love a good gui and didn’t want to fuck with finicky drivers. Moving to Ubuntu from Windows allowed me to continue to use my mostly browser-based computing existence without having to learn to use a new tool. I may not use Arch but one less Windows victim must be a step in a better direction.

[–] makefile@programming.dev 4 points 2 days ago

Any distro > Ubuntu > Qubes (not for beginners haha)

[–] curbstickle@anarchist.nexus 6 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Debian for the overwhelming majority of everything. With KDE, I don't do gnome.

My thinkpads both run arch, you may want to look at endeavouros for a simple approach to arch.

[–] bagsy@lemmy.world 7 points 2 days ago

This is the answer. Debian is rock solid.

[–] brb@sh.itjust.works 3 points 2 days ago

Kubuntu has been pretty nice to me. It has the beginner friendliness of Ubuntu and the modern desktop of KDE

[–] schwim@piefed.zip 7 points 2 days ago (2 children)

Give mint a try just to start. It's ubu-based, super polished and great for a first distro. That being said, don't think Linux doesn't have those update/dependency hell horror stories. If you go into it with realistic expectations, you'll have a great time with it.

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[–] NegentropicBoy@lemmy.world 7 points 2 days ago (2 children)

I moved to Fedora a few years ago. Spent a week or two orienting myself, like going to a new town and not knowing how to get around. So glad I did. I choose when and what to update.

Not perfect though, it lost keyboard connection yesterday. Reboot fixed it.

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[–] Crozekiel@lemmy.zip 6 points 2 days ago

If those are the only two options, I'd go Fedora.

But honestly I'm trying really hard not to distro shame anyone - whatever gets you off windows is a win imo. I don't want to end up like that grounds keeper willy meme about the scottish.

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