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[–] bjoern_tantau@swg-empire.de 29 points 1 month ago (2 children)

It's so weird. The Batman movies by Tim Burton set the tone (quite literally, with the theme song) for the animated series. And they went ahead and gave Mr Freeze a tragic backstory.

Only for Joel Schumacher to pick up the Tim Burton series, throw away the tone (that kids loved from the show) to be more kid friendly, but keep the tragic backstory while portraying him as some punny goofball.

[–] janus2@lemmy.zip 12 points 1 month ago

unintentionally realistic portrayal of a well documented common psychological response to trauma (become a giant goofball about it)

[–] resipsaloquitur@lemmy.cafe 4 points 1 month ago

Listen to Joel’s director’s commentary on Batman Forever. It’s basically an apology tour.

His reasoning was that comic books (the source material) was colorful and campy, and he just leaned into it.

Hard to be mad at him for that.

[–] ummthatguy@lemmy.world 17 points 1 month ago

The Animated Series variant was brilliantly voiced by Star Trek alum Michael Ansara.

Properly captured the pain and conviction of that character.

[–] DaddleDew@lemmy.world 8 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Didn't Arnold just say something in the lines of "I am in pain and therefore I will make everyone else in the city suffer with me" ?

I mean, it's pretty much Mr Freeze's entire motivation as a villain. But put like that it just felt like it was written by a toddler.

[–] Zorque@lemmy.world 3 points 1 month ago

If you boil down both great stories and terrible to their most basic plot elements they will often be the same thing. That does not make the stories equal. They live and breath with how they are told and who they are told by. They are both tragic characters, but the former is taken seriously while the latter is a farce.