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[–] MatSeFi@lemmy.liebeleu.de 2 points 45 minutes ago

He’s completely overlooked the thing that annoys me the most: the unbelievable number of clicks you need to make in Windows/Microsoft to get anything done. – Saving a file to a folder of your choice:

  • Windows: Click ‘Save’ -> Click ‘Choose a different location’ -> Scroll down to skip all the favourites and default locations -> Click the drive where you want to save the file -> Find the folder -> Click ‘Save’
  • Linux: Click ‘Save’ -> Go to the folder -> press 'Save'

Not ot mention my recent attempts to rename a Bluetooth device (two devices of the same type were displayed under the same name, making it impossible to tell them apart) 🤮

[–] moendopi@lemmy.world 9 points 5 hours ago (1 children)

I'm gonna ask a dumb question here and hope for a not dumb answer. When the author says "I know UI consistency has been a dirty word ever since the web and then iOS rose to prominence", what exactly are they referring to?

[–] XLE@piefed.social 9 points 1 hour ago

Best guess : Web interfaces are known for being inconsistent because they don't follow any particular OS-specific design language. And I've seen people complaining about MacOS being really inconsistent, especially in its use of menu icons (what an essay!), and I've seen some people complain the bad UI practices come from iOS.

[–] HollowNaught@lemmy.world 22 points 7 hours ago* (last edited 7 hours ago) (2 children)

I've been forced to use windows for some propriety software during uni. I got a laptop from IT with higher specs than my old one and:

  1. It runs worse than my old shitty laptop
  2. It boots up slower than my old shitty laptop
  3. The battery icon was missing from the taskbar for some ungodly reason (I had to get IT to force an update)
  4. The internet it gets is way worse than my old shitty laptop. I do not know why

So yeah I'm not using Windows 11 ever again

[–] Buckshot@programming.dev 2 points 2 hours ago

Yeah i have to use W11 for work and the brand new Dell XPS, upper mid range, they gave me compared to my 2017 i3 with linux and all this is true.

About the half the time i boot it and the network just doesn't connect. Wired or WiFi. Have to unplug the dock and reconnect it. DNS will drop for 10s at random.

There's times my laptop shows it age like i was bulk processing a load of photos, just resizing, and it took several minutes when the newer cpu was probably several seconds but that's the hardware, not the software.

[–] CADmonkey@lemmy.world 3 points 5 hours ago (1 children)

I use windows 11 at work. I run solidworks, which is a 3D CAD/modeling program so my work computer is reasonably powerful with a decent chunk of RAM.

My laptop from 2020 uses mint. It's faster, although I havent tried to use solidworks on it because I'd have no idea where to start on getting that to run.

[–] osbo9991@lemmy.world 1 points 1 hour ago

Only way I've found to get solidworks to run on Linux is to run a windows 11 VM using virtual machine manager (VMM). Ideally with GPU passthrough, among other optimizations. Kind of runs like shit on my Thinkpad T580 though, which is to be expected for an 8th gen quad core i5 laptop from 2018...

I've tried FreeCAD recently, and it isn't that bad. The latest updates (v1.0 and beyond) have made it much better than it used to be. It helps to watch video guides, as the workflows are a little different. I found this one to be helpful: https://youtube.com/watch?v=9cqs3oTzpac

[–] bunkyprewster@startrek.website 36 points 8 hours ago

For someone used to desktop Linux, where respect for the user, consistency, customisability, and performance are still held in high regard, Windows 11 feels like an endless string of punches in the face.

[–] Hadriscus@jlai.lu 5 points 7 hours ago (2 children)

God I really hope someone figures out Wayland+Wacom. I cannot wait to escape Windows

[–] Hund@feddit.nu 1 points 41 minutes ago
[–] cmnybo@discuss.tchncs.de 2 points 1 hour ago

Wacom tablets should work with KDE and Wayland. They work great with X11 though.

[–] PlaidBaron@lemmy.world 4 points 7 hours ago

I dread having to use my work laptop for this exact reason.

[–] Gsus4@mander.xyz 3 points 7 hours ago

aww...he deeed

[–] MurrayL@lemmy.world 50 points 14 hours ago (3 children)

There’s a similar incentive to this Windows 11 one, but for macOS. Yikes.

Not sure why that warrants a yikes; macOS is far more usable than Windows 11. I’d go so far as to call it downright pleasant in comparison.

[–] nieceandtows@programming.dev 1 points 21 minutes ago

Yeah mac os is the best middle ground. It is a lot more like Linux than Windows will ever be

[–] GalacticRobot@lemmy.world 8 points 9 hours ago (4 children)

Maybe everyone has their biases, but MacOS is often terrible in comparison to Windows, at least in my experience. Hell simply things like snapping windows appropriately MacOS absolutely is trash at still.

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[–] ArmoredThirteen@lemmy.zip 25 points 13 hours ago (1 children)

Maybe it's because I'm more used to windows but my experience any time I've had to use mac at work is I'd rather just be fired. At least with a bit of work you can set windows up to mostly fuck off but I've never figured out how to do that with mac so it aggressively gets in my way when coding and doing qa

[–] zeppo@lemmy.world 16 points 13 hours ago (1 children)

In what ways does it aggressively get in your way?

[–] phonics@lemmy.world 45 points 10 hours ago (5 children)

I hate the multi desktop stuff.

Drag a window to top of screen and it doesn't snap full screen fast enough or consistantly.

Doesn't like to display 1 window across 2 screens.

Sometimes a window will shoot off to the side past the visible desktop for god knows what reason.

You can't nativly set up the mouse scroll to work in reverse direction to the touch pad.

I'm still not sure how to uninstall things.

When my headphone cable is plugged in and I turn on the Mac it insists to make the boot sound though the speakers as an advertizment to the world that there is a Mac around.

If I click x on a browser or app, it doesnt actually shut the program, it just minimizes it.

I can't easily see the size of hard drives/folders and how much space is left available.

Files are just scattered willy nilly in a folder instead of snapped to a grid unless I set that folders defaults...per folder?! Instead of across the whole OS

They are my personal top of mind gripes.

[–] AnAmericanPotato@programming.dev 20 points 8 hours ago (1 children)

Longtime Mac user here. Most of this is valid, and some of these are my biggest gripes.

A couple tips:

I can’t easily see the size of hard drives/folders and how much space is left available.

In the Finder, go to View > Show Status Bar. That'll show you free space easily. (This used to be on by default. I don't remember when they changed it, probably with 10.7 Lion's increased iOS-ification.)

Files are just scattered willy nilly in a folder instead of snapped to a grid unless I set that folders defaults…per folder?!

From a Finder window in icon view, go to View > Show View Options. Select Sort By > Snap to Grid, then click "Use as Defaults". Then it will apply to all your folders that use the default view. Why is "Snap to grid" under "Sort" when it does not sort? WHO KNOWS?!

That said, icon view suuuuuucks. Learn to love list view and you will be happier for it. I gave up on icon view like 25 years ago, after migrating from Mac OS 9. Apple half-assedly ported the Mac OS 9 Finder, and then proceeded to neglect it for a decade or two. At least you can change the grid spacing now.

Doesn’t like to display 1 window across 2 screens.

I'm not totally sure how it works now, but I think this changes if you go to System Settings > Desktop and Dock and turn off the "Displays have Separate Spaces" box.

I’m still not sure how to uninstall things.

There's no universal method. :(

Basic case: just drag the app to the trash. This will leave your user settings in place in ~/Library/Preferences.

Complex cases should have a vendor-supplied uninstaller. For manual cleanup, you have to hunt through your /Library and ~/Library folders to delete related junk from the vendor. Mostly this will be in the LaunchAgents and Application Support folders. But again, no universal method.

If I click x on a browser or app, it doesnt actually shut the program, it just minimizes it.

This is the one thing I strongly disagree about, although I totally understand how it feels wrong when you've spent years learning different behavior.

It's one of the biggest fundamental differences between Mac and Windows UI design, going all the way back to the 80s: Windows is window-centric (I mean...hence the name, right?), while Mac OS is application-centric.

You can still interact with Mac applications with no windows open, via the menu bar. Closing a window and quitting an application are two entirely different concepts. This is not the same as "minimizing" the app. An app can be in the foreground with no open windows. There are plenty of times when I close the last window in an app with the intent to continue using the app (e.g. opening another file or creating a new one).

Fun fact: many years ago, Apple made a few of their apps behave this way by default, with an option to change it back to normal Mac behavior. TextEdit, Preview, and maybe QuickTime Player. Just those few. I guess they wanted to accommodate Windows users' expectations, but it was so half-assed that all it did was ensure that everyone was confused at some point by the inconsistency. They only recently changed it back so we have consistency by default again, but now there's no option at all. Go figure. I wouldn't mind if they implemented an option in a whole-assed way, but I'd go absolutely batty if Windows-like behavior were forced on me.

[–] phonics@lemmy.world 1 points 53 minutes ago

Thanks I'll have a fiddle when I get back to work.

[–] LifeLikeLady@lemmy.world 26 points 9 hours ago

Coming from an IT background. I 100% agree with this assessment.

[–] zeppo@lemmy.world 6 points 7 hours ago

The scroll thing is annoying. I like the “natural” scroll on a touchpad but not a mouse also.

The multi desktop is the same as on Windows and Linux… I don’t use it on any system. I like how MacOS handles fullscreen apps better than either of those.

You can disable the startup sound very easily: https://support.apple.com/en-us/102230

I have only used mirroring to external monitor and not extending a desktop, so I don’t know. As far as maximization I personally hate windows expanding when I move them to the top of the screen. It’s rarely what I want so I turn it off. If I want to maximize it, I hit the green button.

You uninstall Apps by dragging their folder from the Applications folder to the trash can.

Closing the window and leaving the application running is how MacOS has worked forever for some Steve Jobs reason. I am used to hitting Cmd-Q.

The folder stuff can be weird. The way the Desktop icons work is one of the worst aspects, thigh they kind of fixed that (using expanding smart folders or whatever used to be chaos if they had a lot of items in them).

You can check the usage of a Volume from right clicking it in Finder and choosing Get Info. Or just df -h

[–] Zarobi@aussie.zone 3 points 8 hours ago

This is because a Mac is basically a giant iPad with a keyboard. Everything is abstracted away, so if you're actually a computer person and try and take command of what's going on, the giant iPad will say "no you can't do that" constantly

It feels like trying to drive a car with no steering wheel or pedals, and you're expected to vibe your way through it with an overly helpful touchscreen interface running interference. Like just please God just give me the steering wheel

[–] artyom@piefed.social 4 points 9 hours ago (1 children)

These seem like mostly familiarity issues, where Windows issues are malicious in nature.

[–] orclev@lemmy.world 16 points 8 hours ago

No, OS X aggressively resists customization or convenience. There's the Apple way to do pretty much everything and the painful way which is anything but the Apple way. Windows is anti-consumer because they want to harvest your data and cram ads down your throat. OS X just doesn't care what you want or what you would prefer and will actively punish you if you attempt to deviate from the way it thinks you should be doing things. If something doesn't work the way you want tough, OS X makes you adapt to it rather than trying to adapt to you.

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