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[–] unspkbl_horror@lemmy.world 62 points 4 weeks ago (1 children)

Quick timeline...

  • 2022: ChatGPT launches, and presumably, AI companies would have already been forecasting as to their energy needs over the next 5-10 years
  • 2024-2025: AI companies pour money and support into DJT leaving many of us perplexed given Silicon Valley's history of being left-leaning.
  • 2025: DJT takes office, promptly eviscerates EPA and regulators rit large
  • 2026: Data centers run amok

Guess we now know why...

[–] SnotFlickerman@lemmy.blahaj.zone 17 points 4 weeks ago* (last edited 4 weeks ago) (3 children)

2024-2025: AI companies pour money and support into DJT leaving many of us perplexed given Silicon Valley’s history of being left-leaning.

Curtis Yarvin has been writing about his ideas since at least 2009, when I first heard of him and his "Dark Enlightement." He's the "philsophical" underpinning of Silicon Valley's actual values and it was clear long, long before 2024.

He has the ear of people like Elon Musk, Peter Thiel, JD Vance, and more.

From Wikipedia:

Yarvin's ideas were influential among right-libertarians and paleolibertarians, and prominent investors like Thiel have echoed Yarvin's project of seceding from the United States to establish tech-CEO dictatorships. Journalist Jason Wilson noted that Yarvin had "a serious intellectual influence on key figures in Donald Trump's coming administration". Venture capitalist Marc Andreessen, an informal adviser to Donald Trump, has spoken in approval of Yarvin. Political strategist Steve Bannon has read and admired his work. Vice-president JD Vance also praised Yarvin in 2021, and said, drawing from his 2012 "Retire All Government Employees" talk, that "what Trump should do, if I was giving him one piece of advice: Fire every single midlevel bureaucrat, every civil servant in the administrative state, and replace them with our people. And when the courts stop you, stand before the country and say, 'The chief justice has made his ruling. Now let him enforce it.'"

Also a leak of info about Thiel's secretive "Dialog" group included:

Elon Musk ($1.3 trillion)
Eric Schmidt ($40.1 billion)
Henry Kravis ($12.2 billion)
Marcos Galperin ($6.8 billion)
Mike Cannon-Brookes ($7.7 billion)
Scott Cook ($4.4 billion)
Barry Sternlicht ($3.1 billion)
Nicolas Berggruen ($2.9 billion)
John Arnold ($2.8 billion)
Joe Lonsdale ($2.8 billion)
Reid Hoffman ($2.7 billion)

Eric Schmidt from Google, Reid Hoffman of Netflix. The idea that Yarvin's ideas don't come up or aren't obliquely pushed at these events seems deeply unlikely.

[–] uriel238@lemmy.blahaj.zone 15 points 4 weeks ago (1 children)

The left-leaning part of Silicon Valley is the countless technicians, programmers and developers employed there, not the upper management.

Even in San Francisco and Berkeley, the C-Suite are strictly FOX News Republicans.

[–] valtia@lemmy.world 4 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

We like to think the employees are left leaning, but a quick visit to Blind should dispel that illusion

[–] uriel238@lemmy.blahaj.zone 1 points 3 weeks ago

That's disappointing.

[–] ScoffingLizard@lemmy.dbzer0.com 6 points 3 weeks ago

Not a single woman on this list. Probably no black people either.

Yarvin was alo the one who ilcame up with Red Pill philosophy. That explains why it got so toxic.

[–] unspkbl_horror@lemmy.world 2 points 3 weeks ago

Yes i've delved into this a bit since i heard of it, it is as if these people read science fiction and completely missed the points. Or, and more likely, they are evil, know they are evil, and thus like being the villain. These idiotic ideas were always doomed to fail. I know we are still knee-deep in fascism in the US but it is pretty clear Donald Trump's total and complete fascist takeover was always doomed to fail spectacularly. The idea that they could actually carry this out just shows these tech elites are living in such utter isolated delusional bubbles that they actually think they could pull this off.

This is why journalism is so important. We need to know what these people are doing. Keep your eye on your enemy.

[–] BCsven@lemmy.ca 18 points 4 weeks ago (1 children)

Maybe a self driving Tesla will smash into the data center

[–] Blue_Morpho@lemmy.world 8 points 4 weeks ago (6 children)

I don't think you understand how big these data centers are. They are the size of entire cities. A Tesla crash would have the effect of a single car crash in Manhattan.

[–] CADmonkey@lemmy.world 8 points 4 weeks ago (1 children)

Better to hit the substation supplying it.

[–] OwOarchist@pawb.social 6 points 4 weeks ago* (last edited 4 weeks ago) (1 children)

Substations are full of oil-cooled power transformers.

Oil-cooled power transformers are large, obvious targets that can be permanently disabled by a single hit from a decently powerful rifle, even at great distance (all you have to do is punch a hole in it and let the oil leak out so it overheats), and they're expensive and time-consuming to replace.

Just saying...

[–] CADmonkey@lemmy.world 2 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

There was an incident a few years back where someone shot one up to cut power for a gay bar or some such other harmless thing. They never did find the person who did it.

[–] OwOarchist@pawb.social 2 points 3 weeks ago

If only such power could be used for good...

[–] thejml@sh.itjust.works 7 points 4 weeks ago

I hear there's thousands of Cybertrucks just sitting around. Seems like a good use for them.

Besides, you just have to hit the important bits. Power, Network, Cooling.

[–] SouthEndSunset@piefed.blahaj.zone 2 points 4 weeks ago (1 children)

Someone needs to hack every Tesla and drive them into the nearest data centre.

[–] OffworldOsen@lemmy.ca 2 points 3 weeks ago

That's what AI is for, get working on it!

[–] blitzen@lemmy.ca 2 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago)

I think you may be underestimating the size of cities. Even San Francisco, famously small for a major city, is 15 times (at approx. 30k acres) the size of the physically largest data center in the US (Switch Reno Tahoe) at 2,000 acres. That's still just 1/7th the size of Manhattan.

I won't argue that 2,000 acres isn't huge for a data center, but just trying to put numbers to the argument.

[–] cmnybo@discuss.tchncs.de 1 points 3 weeks ago

If the battery cooks off inside the data center, it will do some damage. The amount of water that will be required to put it out will do even more damage.

[–] BCsven@lemmy.ca 1 points 4 weeks ago

How many teslas can we get to that location is the real question

[–] SocialMediaRefugee@lemmy.world 7 points 3 weeks ago

I keep thinking how we were told to conserve energy and water for decades just to see these data centers suck it all up and then some.

[–] Marshezezz@lemmy.blahaj.zone 2 points 4 weeks ago

Steal the equipment and burn them down