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Now that FSR 4.1 is available on the Steam Machine, Valve seems to have used it to update the store page to, well, temper expectations. Valve now claims that the CPU and GPU combo can do "up to 4K gaming with FSR 4.1," which is a much safer claim.

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[–] mctoasterson@reddthat.com 10 points 4 days ago

Stardew Valley up to 4K

[–] saltesc@lemmy.world 14 points 5 days ago (3 children)

The GPU is disappointing. And I think if they want to help with sales, they should sell one that doesn't have NVMe and users can slot their own in.

[–] cyberpunk007@lemmy.ca 16 points 5 days ago* (last edited 5 days ago)

Mmmm the problem is ease of access for hardware noobs who want to play out of the box.

Here's a fun fact, though I didn't really think it would make a difference at first, cyberpunk 2077 got a substantial performance increase when I moved it off my old spindle HDD to my nvme SSD.

They wanted to deliver a PC console experience. Plug and play. Not all these conditions for performance based on how you tweak it.

[–] ZoteTheMighty@lemmy.zip 2 points 3 days ago

You can always build your own desktop and load steam is on it if you want a bigger card.

[–] halcyoncmdr@piefed.social 3 points 5 days ago (1 children)

Selling a barebones kit without RAM and SSD would be a great idea, for those who already have something they can use.

Without those massive money sinks right now, what would that price look like? Since the price was clearly increased in a similar way as the Steam Deck due to that.

[–] bjoern_tantau@swg-empire.de 4 points 4 days ago

Why should someone with the skill to open up a Steam Machine buy one instead of building the whole thing themselves? Don't think the form factor and HDMI CEC are worth it for most people.

[–] panda_abyss@lemmy.ca 12 points 5 days ago* (last edited 5 days ago) (2 children)

:|

Not surprising, I’m actually a bit shocked they pushed the 4k thing so hard when they had chosen this config a while ago.

Sucks for valve. I was hoping this thing would be a knockout just a little pricey due to ramagedon.

At half the price this would be more attractive. I’m sure it’ll get dev support like the deck. But it’s hard to be excited for last gen perf at higher prices.

[–] warm@kbin.earth 26 points 5 days ago (2 children)

If games were actually optimised for this kind of hardware, there would be no problem. We dont actually need all these hardware upgrades every year. Games still run like shit, at some point we have to demand better from our games, rather than constantly upgrading our setups for nothing.

[–] xploit@lemmy.world 7 points 5 days ago (1 children)

This, Valve spent a lot of time optimising their own engine to run on potatoes because of Dota's popularity some time back. But ofc they've added a whole bunch of stuff afterwards that undid bunch of it. Havent tried anything with source engine since early "open beta" days of Deadlock so not sure where it stands now.

[–] warm@kbin.earth 3 points 5 days ago

Source 2 is overall pretty good. It's definitely one of the most performant engines, in the right hands. I'm not fussed about bleeding edge graphics though, I'd much rather have more framerate instead of a few more lights.

[–] panda_abyss@lemmy.ca 3 points 5 days ago

I do not disagree, it’s too easy to ship unoptimized crap in the name of shipping velocity

[–] sp3ctr4l@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago)

I guarantee any game made by Valve, on GoldSource or Source or 'Source2' will be capable of hitting 4K 60fps on this thing.

[–] cyberpunk007@lemmy.ca 9 points 5 days ago (1 children)

Of course it can. I'm sure my cell phone could run doom at 4k. What a dump headline.

[–] iamthetot@piefed.ca 15 points 5 days ago (1 children)

The point is that they changed the claim from "4k 60 fps with FSR" to "up to 4k with FSR" which is a very different claim.

[–] definitemaybe@lemmy.ca 4 points 4 days ago (2 children)

Is it, though?

As with all things PC gaming, it depends on the game.

Is it capable of 4K@60Hz in some games? Absolutely.
Is any computer capable of 4K@60Hz in all games? Of course not!

To me, this change is just clarifying things for people who are ignorant of technology, and to avoid stupid/silly complaints that the Gabecube can't run the latest and greatest at 4K/60 fps.

[–] FatVegan@leminal.space 3 points 3 days ago

I meqn the ps5 box says something like 8k ready

[–] iamthetot@piefed.ca 3 points 4 days ago

The removal of 4k 60fps after the performance reviews is absolutely no mistake.

[–] Sunspear@piefed.social 10 points 5 days ago (1 children)

The Xbox Series S was also 'up to' 4K, so I guess this is expexted, but still I wish manufacturers took their plausible deniability advertisements a bit more seriously...

[–] DdCno1@beehaw.org 2 points 5 days ago (1 children)

Microsoft has been quite transparent about the fact that the Series S can only do 4K with upscaling:

The primary difference between the two consoles is that the XBOX Series X displays games in native 4K, is available with a UHD Blu-ray Disc player, and you can choose between 1TB SSD or 2TB SSD. XBOX Series S is designed for disc-free gaming at 1440p (with the ability to upscale to 4K) and you can choose between 512GB SSD or 1TB SSD.

Source: https://www.xbox.com/en-US/consoles/xbox-series-s#specs

One might argue that even the Series X upscaled to 4K more often than not, but still. It can actually render a number of games at native 4K, just like its predecessor. Interestingly, the Series S GPU is weaker than the one used by the One X, albeit more modern, which impacts backwards compatibility, limiting it to One S resolutions and performance with Xbox One, 360 and OG titles.

[–] Icedrous@lemmy.ca 1 points 3 days ago

Microsoft also claims that the Series S can play games “up to 120fps”. We all know that’s the furthest from the truth.

My takeaway is to take what Valve say with a grain of salt and watch YouTube videos on performance before dropping money on it.

[–] ArfArfWoof@europe.pub 4 points 5 days ago

4K video playback?

[–] Kolanaki@pawb.social 4 points 5 days ago* (last edited 5 days ago) (1 children)

My PC can do 4K, too. But it's only gonna get like 12fps in most shit. Also AMD themselves says FSR4 is slower than FSR3. You get better image quality at the trade off of lower performance.

[–] scutiger@lemmy.world 2 points 5 days ago

You'd be surprised how well some stuff can run. Doom 2016 can run comfortably at 4k on a GTX 1070 with graphics maxed out. Sure, you won't play a brand new AAA game with maxed out graphics at 4K, but if you make some compromises, you can go pretty far.

[–] 1Fuji2Taka3Nasubi@piefed.zip 4 points 5 days ago

So it wouldn’t let me play minesweeper at 8k?

[–] ekZepp@lemmy.world 3 points 5 days ago* (last edited 5 days ago)

I'm not too sure about the claim, but if they keep optimizing the upscale technology just as they did with proton, it will be everyone win.