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[–] kibblebits@quokk.au 129 points 2 months ago (2 children)

Do you want authoritarianism, because that’s how you get it.

[–] Insekticus@aussie.zone 33 points 2 months ago (1 children)

I think it's already here (globally, I mean). The beast is just now confident to show its face.

[–] kibblebits@quokk.au 10 points 2 months ago (1 children)

I think they just don’t care because they know no one will do anything about it. Except protest, which is for losers.

[–] BrightCandle@lemmy.world 5 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

They have been finding that pretty annoying too, they are banning as much of that as they can currently get away with even if its completely ineffective.

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[–] minorkeys@sh.itjust.works 79 points 2 months ago (23 children)

What can we do to stop this?

[–] nul42@lemmy.ca 54 points 2 months ago (3 children)

My plan is to just never submit to an age verification. Change servers or self host if necessary. Worse comes to worse, we log off.

[–] Insekticus@aussie.zone 24 points 2 months ago (1 children)

That's the spirit.

I'll watch the system burn to the ground before I agree to privacy invasion.

[–] minorkeys@sh.itjust.works 20 points 2 months ago (2 children)

But it won't burn, it will be content to leave you behind.

[–] BigBenis@lemmy.world 20 points 2 months ago (2 children)

And so what? Many of us left Reddit because it killed 3rd party apps to force us onto its shitty mobile app. Did it burn without us? No, I doubt they even noticed. Does that make our departure meaningless? Also no, we built something better here.

[–] minorkeys@sh.itjust.works 5 points 2 months ago (1 children)

So it isn't a choice between privacy invasion or watching it burn. It's a choice between privacy invasion and being left behind.

[–] BigBenis@lemmy.world 8 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (8 children)

Left behind? If you've deemed a system to be so necessary that refusing to abandon your privacy at its behest means you are condemned to live in obsolescence, then you're only reinforcing the idea that we must surrender our rights for the benefits of the system.

I'm old enough to have lived in a world without the internet and if it's going in a direction that demands I surrender my right to privacy then I'll return to a life without the internet. I won't be alone and just like Lemmy I'm confident we'll build an alternative that aligns with our values.

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[–] paulcdb@lemmy.world 12 points 2 months ago (6 children)

And what do you do when its a requirement to buy food, submit tax returns, get healthcare?

This is the problem people don’t understand. We have the same issue now in the UK. People think a voluntary system is easy ro just ignore until everything you rely and need forces you to starve or submit.

And its not going to stop at just age verification, it’ll continue until all you get to enjoy is maybe a loaf of bread, and some pond water! 🤦‍♂️

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[–] minorkeys@sh.itjust.works 4 points 2 months ago

The impact that may have on navigating life seems significant. Have you even considered how that would actually work? Practically.

[–] zewm@lemmy.world 4 points 2 months ago (2 children)
[–] minorkeys@sh.itjust.works 5 points 2 months ago (1 children)
[–] zewm@lemmy.world 7 points 2 months ago

Start with local elections, then move up to provincial and finally national elections. Vote the people in that won’t do this.

Take it a step further and run for election yourself.

[–] Hawk@lemmy.dbzer0.com 5 points 2 months ago (2 children)

Voting won't do shit, the majority of people don't even see the problem with these bills.

[–] zewm@lemmy.world 5 points 2 months ago (1 children)

And that defeatist mentality is the reason shit doesn’t change.

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[–] WorldsDumbestMan@lemmy.today 43 points 2 months ago

The elites in every country are fighting together to keep us down, while we fight against each other.

There is a simple common problem.

[–] nao@sh.itjust.works 40 points 2 months ago (5 children)

Why does every government want age verification now, what's in it for them? Can't be one started and everyone saw it and thought that's a great idea let's introduce it too?

[–] dual_sport_dork@lemmy.world 88 points 2 months ago (3 children)

Because it de facto requires everyone using the internet to provide their identity, which is something that gives authoritarian types a huge boner. Once there is no such thing as anonymous discourse, it becomes trivial to target/arrest/harass/brutalize dissenters or indeed anyone the current regime simply doesn't like.

[–] Airfried@piefed.social 24 points 2 months ago

This amount of surveillance has a really disturbing track record in history. So assuming any politician backing this must be a fascist at heart is the correct approach. These politicians should not be in any position to make any of these decisions. They can't represent democracy when they declare themselves the enemies of it.

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[–] Zephorah@discuss.online 32 points 2 months ago (1 children)

It’s part of the data center push, Palantir, all of it. Centralized info storage so if anyone starts to push back anywhere they know exactly who and where. That and ads. The internet is too anonymous.

It’s the same set of billionaires. A little line between countries doesn’t mean much to them.

[–] sigmaklimgrindset@sopuli.xyz 10 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

It's so blatant too, for anyone with half a brain. We're part of 5 Eyes, there's like 97 data centres being built or already in the late stages of approval here, and all of our internet traffic is controlled by 3 mega ISPs in moustache and glasses. We're already being tracked pretty thoroughly. Conservatives or Liberals, it doesn't matter when it comes to selling Canadians off to foreign corporate entities.

[–] DFX4509B@lemmy.wtf 8 points 2 months ago

Because Meta and probably Bloomberg too, bribed them.

[–] CompactFlax@discuss.tchncs.de 4 points 2 months ago

Social networks see the writing on the wall and want to create regulatory capture. If they provide the identify verification it is another hook into us.

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[–] SocialMediaRefugee@lemmy.world 28 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Those in power hate the anonymous internet.

[–] CyberTheProtogen@lemmy.zip 4 points 2 months ago

Because the things they do make the anonymous internet hate them.

Gabe Newell is a rare example of someone who is rich and has a decent amount of power but still the majority of the internet loves him

[–] merdaverse@lemmy.world 16 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Ironic that this is being pushed by "liberals". They don't even bother to live up to their own failing ideology anymore.

[–] SocialMediaRefugee@lemmy.world 14 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

Everyone in power wants it. They all say "It's for the children". State govs have already done it for adult sites.

[–] TheJesusaurus@piefed.ca 13 points 2 months ago (1 children)

If I hear anything else about C-34 I'm going to slap the benzos out of Jordan Peterson

[–] WolvenSpectre@lemmy.ca 4 points 2 months ago

They are throwing Bill C-22, (L)Awful Access and C-34 at the same time to confuse low information voters.

Now here's a camera I want full Slo-Mo 4K footage of the Benny's hitting the floor after you slap them out of JP.

[–] trackball_fetish@lemmy.wtf 12 points 2 months ago

I tried warning thee Canadians months ago. The assault is upon the common man. These bastards are going to enslave us and run off with a bunch of cash.

[–] rogsson@piefed.social 12 points 2 months ago

Fucking idiots everywhere

[–] UltraBlack@lemmy.world 11 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Rule34: don't lock down the Internet

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[–] Grandwolf319@sh.itjust.works 9 points 2 months ago (3 children)

Serious question, can we start building local infrastructure for our own internet via meshtastic and those technologies?

[–] d3vnu1l@programming.dev 7 points 2 months ago

You should check out reticulum if you haven't already. More use cases than just messaging.

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[–] TerdFerguson@lemmy.world 6 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

WE NEED

::: spoiler


online age verification :::

TO PROTECT CHILDREN

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