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[–] nosuchanon@lemmy.world 64 points 1 week ago (1 children)

The children, they yearn for the mines!

[–] joeljoelle@piefed.blahaj.zone 2 points 1 week ago

Soon after, they are pining for the fjords.

[–] MushuChupacabra@piefed.world 48 points 1 week ago

That's a natural consequence of sending all of your adult workforce to slaughter.

[–] Zacryon@feddit.org 23 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Pro tip: stop fucking around with other countries and your problems are solved.

[–] Tar_alcaran@sh.itjust.works 14 points 1 week ago (1 children)

I wouldn't say "solved". It's going to take a lifetime of hard work for Russia to solve the problems they created.

But at least it would stop making it worse.

[–] ZkhqrD5o@lemmy.world 6 points 1 week ago

Nah, if you can make it worse, you haven't reached the real rock-bottom yet.

[–] GoalPostGhost@lemmy.blahaj.zone 12 points 1 week ago

Old enough to work, old enough to go to the front.

I'm surprised they weren't already doing that

[–] doleo@lemmy.one 9 points 1 week ago (2 children)

13 is the minimum in Netherlands. Yes, under some conditions, but still. 13.

[–] DdCno1@beehaw.org 13 points 1 week ago

In Germany, it's 14. I made absolute bank tutoring slightly younger kids (and a few old people on how to use computers) as a teen and young adult. Since I also used a bicycle to get to all of my clients four to five days per week, I was in the best shape of my entire life.

Still, the reality of these laws, especially in countries like Russia, is that kids from poor socioeconomic backgrounds will be forced into awful (even dangerous) jobs at terrible hours (not the easy-going "self-employed" middle class tutoring I voluntarily did), resulting in lower quality of life and poor performance at school, which means their chance of having a decent life later on will be seriously hurt when they are tired in classes and don't have enough time to learn, play and socialize outside of school hours.

[–] Tar_alcaran@sh.itjust.works 11 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (1 children)

Those "some conditions" being:

Not on school days.

Not on sundays, except if you didn't work Saturday and only a dozen per year.

No factory or machine work

No dangerous materials

No register work

No loading/unloading

No delivery work

No late or night work

No loud noises

I feel Russia doesn't quite hold to the same list of requirements.

[–] Vinylraupe@lemmy.zip 1 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (1 children)

Can you tell me what kind of work is even left for 13 year olds?

Edit: I get it, apparently farmwork.

[–] Tar_alcaran@sh.itjust.works 8 points 1 week ago

Stuff like stocking shelves at the supermarket, helping around your parents work.

But yeah, the list is intentionally short.

[–] Baggie@lemmy.zip 6 points 1 week ago

Bro just stop invading other nations it's literally not that hard.

[–] flandish@lemmy.world -4 points 1 week ago (3 children)

they’re basically doing what the US already does, for different reasons, but yeah… this is a natural byproduct of capitalism’s need for profit.

[–] Quittenbrot@feddit.org 11 points 1 week ago (2 children)

this is a natural byproduct of capitalism’s need for profit.

This is more a direct consequence of them waging the biggest and bloodiest war of aggression this continent has seen since the Nazis for more than four years now.

[–] flandish@lemmy.world 1 points 1 week ago

for sure.

and what is a big part of war but profit?

[–] plyth@feddit.org -4 points 1 week ago (1 children)

biggest and bloodiest war of aggression this continent has seen since the Nazis

That's because the media doesn't fully show what is happening in the rest of the world.

With some digging, the wars in the rest of the world also reveal their western influence. The only difference is that most people fighting and dying are not white.

I don't think that we should make it an issue that the war is fought in Europe. We should treat it like any other war in the world. Everything else condones the other wars too much.

[–] Quittenbrot@feddit.org 2 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (1 children)

That’s because the media doesn’t fully show what is happening in the rest of the world.

Look closely:

biggest and bloodiest war of aggression this continent has seen since the Nazis

So: thank you, but no derailing here.

[–] plyth@feddit.org -3 points 1 week ago (1 children)

this continent has seen

My argument is that in a globalized world we should know about all wars and it doesn't matter where they are fought. Why should there be no war in Europe if we are happy to support wars all over the world? Europeans are not more worthy of being spared of war than anybody else in this world.

[–] Quittenbrot@feddit.org 2 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Stop your whataboutism and derailing and stick to the topic at hand. If you don't want/can't, then don't engage in this discussion.

[–] plyth@feddit.org -2 points 1 week ago

this continent has seen

It's a play on the word seen. The European stones haven't seen bigger wars, but the eyes of the European people have. Europe has seen those wars, but has chosen to ignore them.

[–] JensSpahnpasta@feddit.org 11 points 1 week ago (2 children)

Ah, a russian "both sides" propaganda bot

[–] flandish@lemmy.world 1 points 1 week ago
[–] Prove_your_argument@piefed.social 1 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (1 children)

Russia is evil, for sure.

  • What do you call what's going on in Iran?

  • Venezuela?

  • Alligator Alcatraz?

  • "Drug runner" civilian boat airstrikes in the Caribbean?

  • Anything coming out of the supreme court these days?

  • 1.8 billion dollar slush fund for insurrectionists?

Don't get me wrong, I think russian interference brought us this administration in some capacity, but the people doing the dirty deeds every day are americans. An illegal order is an illegal order (civilian boat air strikes.)

Don't even get me started on domestic surveillance of people who call out these heinous things. The mass cancellation of visas, the near total standstill of green card issuance to anybody other than white south africans...

To say that a money grab isn't a huge component of everything out of project 2025 and this administration would be blindingly ignorant. This is costing people lives all over the world, and it would from JUST USAID going away.

I'm really glad that the EU is going away from US tech, even though that means i'm less likely to have a job in a few years as a tech worker. I think we're going to see a lot less US centric world politics in the coming decades. Also pretty awesome that ukraine is being so successful now despite current administration interference / collusion.

[–] JensSpahnpasta@feddit.org 2 points 1 week ago

Yeah, a russian propaganda bot. Classic playbook of posting correct criticism of the USA in the wrong place. Trumps USA is, of course, not a great country. But we are talking about Russia here. Do not try to steer the discussion about Putins crimes into one about the USA and Trump.

[–] Texas_Hangover@lemmy.radio 4 points 1 week ago (2 children)

Where, pray tell in the US are 12 year olds working?

Helping on the family farm doesn't count.

[–] flandish@lemmy.world 5 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)
[–] flandish@lemmy.world 1 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

added example to prior reply