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I'm helping a family member build a pc. He wanted to use Windows because "Linux can't play games" despite me having a perfectly good gaming laptop running Linux that runs all my games, even graphically intensive ones.

2 days later, no game has been played yet. We can't even get steam to start. I even installed Arch on a sata ssd I donated just to verify the pc parts actually work (took less than an hour). It took 1 and a half days to even get the Windows 11 installer to get past like the 3rd screen.

Fucking fuck. Dealing with all this fucking bullshit is far worse than not being able to play a few trashy anticheat pay 2 win games. The anti Linux circlejerk is real.

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[–] [email protected] 6 points 2 years ago (3 children)

People have trouble installing Windows? You enter a license key and click next a couple times.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 children)

You missed the part where you either sign in with your Microsoft account or cut your Internet, remove the webcam, fake your own death, and do the secret tap code in the bios to just have the OS without letting Microsoft into your butthole.

[–] [email protected] -5 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (3 children)

Windows 11 doesn't force you do any of that. Just skip the sign in. Your points were valid in 8/10 era but no more.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 2 years ago (1 children)

It depends on the version, but yes, it does. It's especially a problem on prebuilt machines and laptops. It is incredibly annoying to work with in a corporate environment. Our helpdesk tech comes to me with issues related to this probably three times a week. I gave up with work arounds and we just have a throwaway Microsoft account now.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Rufus has workarounds for the mandatory login.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 2 years ago (2 children)

Who is this Rufus fellow? Is he like Tux?

[–] [email protected] 1 points 10 months ago

He's that chill future guy from Bill & Ted's excellent adventure.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Windows app for flashing ISOs to your USB. It provides additional options for flashing Windows 11.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 months ago

Rufus it's the only thing that let me keep my relation with windows, that and Vegas video editor.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

Not true. 11 very much still forces you to use an MS account.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 years ago

I just installed 11 recently. There isn't a skip button anymore. I had to enter fake sign in details for it to give me the "offline" option.

So it seems like their point may still stand.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Try doing it on a b650 motherboard that's so new the windows installer doesn't even have the correct ahci drivers

[–] [email protected] -1 points 2 years ago (1 children)

I bought a Ryzen 7 7800X3D and an Asrock X670E, I was upgrading and just transferred my Windows install but still.... No issues.

I'm no huge fan of Windows, but it sounds like you had (No offense) PEBKAC errors.

[–] [email protected] -1 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

I’m no huge fan of Windows, but it sounds like you had (No offense) PEBKAC errors.

I think so too and no offense meant to OP as well.

I am an early adopter of all things tech and so I had a Gigabyte Xtreme X670E mobo on pretty much day 1 to go with a 7950X. Everything worked fine on both Windows 11 and Linux despite being a pimped-up mobo and brand new CPU. At this much later date, OP's B650 mobo should be working without a hitch, especially with Windows (and almost certainly with Linux as well).

[–] [email protected] 0 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 children)

It's a joke post. Which makes it extra funny, and quite sad, how many of the comment seem to think it's serious and are unironically chiming in with complaints.

OPs username is "Peter Poopshit", I wouldn't take anything they post seriously.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

Several people thinking this post is too stupid to possibly be real because they think linux users are smart says everything you need to know about this community.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 5 months ago

Being unable to delete OneDrive is reason enough to drop Windows imo.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 months ago

Every time I have to use Windows I am amazed how Microsoft is ruinning it. Ads, unconsisitent UI, bad UX forcing you to be part of their Microsoft365 services shit.

A friend of mine had his Desktop sync on a OneDrive account without really knowing why. And sometime the whole shit got desynchronized and it's files and folders disapeard. The fix was to restart his machine while being connected to the internet :D

[–] [email protected] 2 points 5 months ago

I have a Windows partition on my workstation. It serves really two purposes, some manufacturers issue firmware upgrades that you can only install from Windows and games. Recently that partition got scribbled and I had to re-install. The most recent Windows ISO would NOT install for me from a USB, I HAD to burn a double sided DVD to get it to install. Then within two weeks of installation it runs into an update that keeps failing. Gotta fucking love it. And this is Win10, I am not ever upgrading to Win11.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 years ago

Windows has it's serious flaws, and I would never willingly go back to it at this point, but the installer is too hard? This sounds like a you-issue rather than a Windows one.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 years ago

Sounds like a skill issue on your behalf.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 years ago

Windows 10 LTSC is the way to go if you absolutely have to use Windows, I'd love to use Linux on my gaming rig but Assetto Corsa + my simracing hardware doesn't play nice at all.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 9 months ago

skill issue

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 years ago

ROFL windows is the easiest thing ever to install. Same with steam.

Sounds like either you’re terrible with computers or you have some serious hardware issues.

Blaming it solely on windows is a joke.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago)

I have gotten so used to not dealing with windows that on the rare occasion when I do go back I find that I have to check my anger and aggression while doing so.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 years ago

Do you struggle dressing yourself too? Lol

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 years ago

I thought this would be a post complaining about the usablility of windows as a desktop, not the one thing windows does right...

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 years ago

Nice bait I guess. Windows may have bad things, but I have no idea what you're talking about here

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

I recently just reinstalled windows on my gaming pc and arch on my laptop, and I completely agree with you. especially the fact that now windows 11 force you to sign in. I know it can be skipped, and average users probably wont care, but FUCK YOU MICROSOFT!

archinstall is such a breeze, and in general for linux, I can control precisely what to install and configure it to be exactly how I like it, as opposed to windows I had to find some sketchy debloater scripts to remove all the craps, disable the telemetries, and hoping it doesn't break anything.

And if I break anything, linux always have detailed documentations, where as windows...its always some indian guy on youtube teaching you how to run windows troubleshooter and hand you more sketchy scripts

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 years ago (1 children)

I'm upvoting this because it's hilarious, but on a serious note, installing windows is so easy my granny could do it.

The only thing, and I assume that's where you struggled, is sometimes the formatting of the hd doesn't want to work. In that case, a quick google will help you out, but also just format it quickly with diskpart and continue the installation.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 years ago

This person is either cursed or idk what they were trying to do. Installing Windows literally couldn't be easier, you don't even need to think about partitions, you can just let it create them itself.

I reinstall Windows every cca. 6 months to clear all the bloat i pick up, it's really not that hard.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago)

It's definitely more frustrating. I've had a similar experience trying to help people with their Windows PCs. Thankfully I've managed to convince a few to switch to Linux Mint.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

Builds New PC -> Can't even start Steam

Somehow I don't think the problem is Windows.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 years ago

I cant tell if people in this thread are trolls, ultra elite linux shills, or just people incapable of following simple instructions...

Like I get it, windows bad or w/e... But to act like it takes longer than an hour or two to install it, let alone 2 whole fucking days is just asinine.

Imagine having enough of a skill issue that it takes you 2 days to install Windows OS. The OS that idiot proofs itself by literally holding your hand on every option and walks you through itself to install.

Im not even joking, I re-install and have installed windows the past few years multiple times on personal devices for myself and my family and friends and even do it for professional devices and servers for my job. It is brain dead easy, enough that my tech illiterate grandparents managed to re-install it before I could make the drive to meet them and do it for them... I can't take this OP or anyone else seriously if they can manage to install a linux based OS but somehow have 2 days worth of trouble with Windows OS...

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 years ago

ROFL, I like Linux, but if you can't install windows 11 easily. The problem isn't win11...

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 years ago

I keep a virtual machine of 10. I don't enjoy using it though.

[–] [email protected] -1 points 2 years ago

Sounds like the problem was between the keyboard and chair.

[–] [email protected] -1 points 2 years ago

This thread has to be a bait