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    I remember when Proton launched it was like magic playing games like Doom and Nier Automata straight from the Linux Steam client with excellent performance. I do not miss the days of having the Windows version of Steam installed separately.

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    [–] captain_aggravated@sh.itjust.works 15 points 2 years ago (3 children)

    In the time I have been a Linux gamer, it has gone from "here is a list of games that work in Linux" to "here is a list of games that do not work in Linux." Which some dictionaries define as "progress."

    [–] atmur@lemmy.world 5 points 2 years ago (1 children)

    That's a perfect way to put it. From constantly relying on ProtonDB to occasionally checking areweanticheatyet.com.

    [–] RubberElectrons@lemmy.world 1 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

    Oh I'd never even heard of that second site haha.

    [–] Synnr@sopuli.xyz 2 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (2 children)

    That's crazy! When I was last trying to run Linux full time in ~2014, you had WINE and then a commercial version of WINE (not by the WINE devs, but because WINE is licensed the way it is and is open source...) that would run a few more things, but I don't remember what it was called.

    So glad to hear it's progressing this quickly and far.

    [–] atmur@lemmy.world 2 points 2 years ago (1 children)

    a commercial version of WINE

    That would be CrossOver by CodeWeavers. They're actually a huge contributor to upstream Wine and have worked with Valve (and I think Collabora?) several times over the past few years. I'm kind of tempted to buy a copy of CrossOver to support them even though I'd never use it, lol

    [–] DJDarren@thelemmy.club 1 points 2 years ago

    I think that a good chunk of Apple's GPTK is based on the work that CodeWeavers have done, which has made me tempted to shell out for Crossover too. Β£60 is a fair old chunk just to play games on my Mac though.

    [–] captain_aggravated@sh.itjust.works 2 points 2 years ago (1 children)

    I started out in 2014, and pretty much what I did was look to see if there was a Steam logo on the Steam store page to indicate Linux compatibility. With Proton in the last few years, I just don't really worry about it. I will say my tastes have just about always lined up with the kinds of games, the kinds of studios, that are likely to publish for Linux, the nerd shit like Kerbal Space Program and Factorio. I don't play Call of Fifa, Modern Fortnite or whatever.

    [–] Chee_Koala@lemmy.world 1 points 2 years ago

    What about Red Theft Autoredemption, or Overwatch of Legends? πŸ˜†

    [–] cloudy1999@sh.itjust.works 2 points 2 years ago (1 children)

    In 2003, it was my dream to play FF7 in Linux. In 2019, my dream came true. Thanks Proton, Codeweavers, Wine, Valve, et al for helping me finally put down Sephiroth right.

    There've been good PlayStation emulators in Linux since long before 2019.

    [–] Gemini24601@lemmy.world 3 points 2 years ago (1 children)

    Imagine a completely different OS running software made for your OS better than your actual OS could. This is Microsoft Windows

    [–] gornius@lemmy.world 2 points 2 years ago

    Not only OS - written using 3D APIs closed source available only for your OS.

    [–] Apollo2323@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 2 years ago

    True I just moved my gaming PC to Linux and wow!! Almost all of my games run on Linux. Thank you for everyone working so hard.

    [–] Adelio_Sanders@lemmy.world 2 points 1 month ago

    I also remember that β€œmagical” moment β€” Proton really took away the pain of dual-booting and separate Steam for Windows. Doom/Nier run like a charm, and now it's increasingly a case of β€œinstall and play.”

    A couple of life hacks, if they come in handy:

    In the game properties, try Proton Experimental or Proton-GE β€” it often fixes finicky titles.

    Check ProtonDB before installing, there are working launch parameters there.

    For comfort: shader pre-caching, FSR/Gamescope, MangoHUD (fps/frametime).

    If you run into anti-cheat issues, check if the game has support enabled; many already have it built in.

    I also tried https://www.jenny-mods.net/ and was pleasantly surprised.

    Linux gaming is now truly β€œplug and play,” and it's awesome.

    [–] AlmightySnoo@lemmy.world 2 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

    And to say that there used to be a time when "Linux gaming" was an oxymoron as it at most meant SuperTuxKart or mindlessly watching glxgears.

    [–] psycho_driver@lemmy.world 2 points 2 years ago

    Windows too busy using those cpu cycles to gather your usage metrics for sale to third parties.

    [–] BouncyMyth@lemmy.today 2 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago)

    Same here, Proton really changed the experience on Linux, and on the side I’ve been trying things like https://jennys-mods.com/ for variety.

    [–] JustADragon@lemmy.ml 1 points 11 months ago

    in my case pretty much all heavy games work much better on Linux than on windows(laptop came with windows, so tested before putting Linux on it and then compared). in many cases I get around 1.5 to 2 times the performance, stability is also much greater, this is both for new and old games. that said I tend to avoid those games with insane mallware(drm) in it.

    system uses a apu and has only 16gb ram and 1.5tb nvme ssd. so might also be it has a much bigger effects on APU since Linux handles ram much better. but if a system suffers from other similar bottlenecks like: storage, ram, compute, TDP and thermal, etc. problems should also result in much better performance when switching to Linux. I guess the only exception would be if the GPU compute power would litterally 100% be the only bottleneck, or close to that, but in a APU(where one might assume games to be heavily bottlenecked by GPU compute power) GNU+Linux gives much better performance.

    also this was tested on Garuda Linux KDE Dragonized edition, and changed the kernel to a newer one since by default it will use a kernel optimized or first gen ryzen. which gives some issues and lower performance.

    [–] kyub@discuss.tchncs.de 1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

    It's an important milestone as it's the only effective way to make PC gaming available on operating systems other than Windows (i.e., reduce one of the Windows monopolies). Still, Linux gamers shouldn't take it too far. I'd advise everyone to still not support game studios which are openly hostile towards Linux gamers. This especially includes the ones who rely on client-side anticheat tools and then use those to block Linux gamers even though the game would run perfectly fine on Linux as well. Please do not support such games or studios (e.g.: Epic Games, EA, Bungie, Riot). Thanks to Proton, there is still a massive number of Windows games that can be played instead.

    [–] CaptDust@sh.itjust.works 1 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

    Anticheat is about to force this progress backwards years as publishers push drm

    [–] KingThrillgore@lemmy.ml 1 points 2 years ago

    Valve literally went "you know what fuck the profits we need off Windows" and they did what nobody else has done before.

    [–] hperrin@lemmy.world 0 points 2 years ago (1 children)

    Proton literally got me into PC gaming again. I switched to Linux in 2008, and stopped playing PC games. For a decade, I missed so much. Valve is awesome!

    [–] sederx@programming.dev 1 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

    i mean that was your choice i was playing Wow on linux in like 2008