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If the Dems get a trifecta do not expect them to do anything meaningful, say it all takes too much time, and just shuffle chairs around.

[–] ChilledPeppers@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 59 minutes ago

No nuance allowed! We good they bad! Fuck everyone who disagrees with me!

[–] hzl@piefed.blahaj.zone 27 points 4 hours ago* (last edited 4 hours ago) (2 children)

Loads of people who vote Democrat are well aware that capitalism is fucked and has only ever worked for the rich. Voting for a Democrat does not imply agreeing with every party decision.

The question is whether you agree with harm reduction, accelerationism, or nihilism.

From a harm reduction standpoint, it makes sense to elect the imperfect candidate who will at least try to make things a little better. This is the same thinking that makes things like needle exchanges a good idea. Yes, maybe it would be better if no one were addicted to heroin, but given that some people are it's probably be better to reduce the likelihood that they become a vector for blood-borne illnesses.

From an accelerationist standpoint, it makes sense to elect the worst possible candidate in the hopes that it's jarring enough to get people to change the system. This approach of making things better by making things worse reflects the conservative tendency toward punishment as a solution. If addiction is punished and demonized, people will have a strong incentive to avoid addiction.

From a nihilistic standpoint, it makes sense to refuse to vote for anyone you don't fully agree with. Participation in the political arena can be disregarded. This approach reflects the perspective that consequences don't mean anything, so we might as well all share the same needle because it's easier.

Personally, I find harm reduction to be the most beneficial option.

[–] LurkingLuddite@piefed.social 10 points 3 hours ago

I mean, you're right in the general sense, though OP's quote does say, "liberals", not, "those who vote Democrat". So the implication is clearly pushing against people that think Democrats are a good choice and not simply the lesser of the two evils.

[–] JasonDJ@lemmy.zip 1 points 3 hours ago

These motherfuckers would forcing HepC needles on every junkie if they could.

[–] wuffah@lemmy.world 3 points 2 hours ago* (last edited 1 hour ago)

Yea right, let’s elect another Republican and see how that goes. The Republican Party is decidedly more racist, sexist, anti-worker, anti-choice, anti-science, anti-healthcare, anti-regulatory, pro-corporate, pro-slavery, pro-fascist, pro-war, hyper-religious, authoritarian, and anti-progressive, than even the most centrist of Democrats.

This kind of “Both-sides-ism” is a ploy to further weaken perceptions of Democratic candidates before the midterms. The most neoliberal, centrist, corporate Democrats are leaps and bounds better for America since the Right’s embrace of Trumpism. Republicans are literally dismantling our government, our society, and our economy. A vote for any Republican will be a vote for Trump, no matter who the candidate, for as long as the party continues to exist, even long after his death.

Healthy democracies and economies lie in tension between a balance of opposing sides, and managed capitalism worked pretty well until we allowed extreme wealth to penetrate its guardrails. It’s time to swing the pendulum back to the more socialist policies Americans are desperate for, and yet another Republican president is a huge shove in the wrong direction.

[–] Natanox@discuss.tchncs.de 27 points 5 hours ago (1 children)

I always love when someone thinks the answer to problems usually being replied to with overly simplified (but wrong) answers is another equally simplified answer that surely explains everything.

[–] chemical_cutthroat@lemmy.world 12 points 5 hours ago

Third parties don't win presidencies... they win city councils, state legislatures, and governorships first. That's how political movements actually work. But posting about it on Twitter is probably fine too. #socialism

[–] someguy3@lemmy.world 0 points 2 hours ago (1 children)

It's going to be capitalism. The question is do you want American capitalism that's free for all, or European capitalism with worker benefits and healthcare?

[–] b161@lemmy.blahaj.zone 1 points 17 minutes ago

Mmmm yummm delicious capitalist realism.

[–] FiniteBanjo@feddit.online 5 points 5 hours ago (1 children)

The Delusion of this guy is he thinks not voting is going to help him.

Hey Einstein, you've got a pedophile for president whose policy resulted in millions of deaths by starvation after USAID was cut, environmental policy which is literally decided by oil companies, dismantling of public land protections, gutting of SNAP and Medicaid, the foreign policy stance of "if I can kill people and take it I will", all because more than 6 Million People who voted for a Democrat in 2020 decided NOT to show up in 2024.

You're about as socialist as a hooker on crack.

[–] LurkingLuddite@piefed.social 5 points 3 hours ago* (last edited 3 hours ago) (2 children)

OP's quote doesn't talk about voting except ONLY in saying that 'liberals' think voting in a Democrat will fix things.

It says nothing about what the 'correct' answer is for them, and your angst is aimed very poorly.

[–] CardboardDecoy@lemmy.world 2 points 2 hours ago

I think getting semantic here is a trap, it's still serving the purpose of casting doubt on the system. Great most days, but when an election is looming this is wrecker shit.

Think the usual 'Democrats are terrible too' schtick doesn't actually work well on Lemmy broadly but now we're going to see things like this where people will start picking apart the words of the text and claiming it isn't what it is.

We're all, mostly, at least a good decent number of us, adults who have seen all this shit before. Yes they said liberals, liberals are centerist poo-poo-ers who want their status quo and don't want to be associated with bad press but not much else, fuck em. But also, Capitalism isn't going to be fixed any time soon, in the meantime, however, one party plays host to at least some number of people trying to actually improve the lives of their constituency and for fucks sake you can't tell me they're just as bad as the partyconsisting exclusively of people openly looting and pillaging the entirety of the nation for personal gain and bald faced cruelty.

Just downvote OP and keep an eye out for people trying to bait.

[–] FiniteBanjo@feddit.online 1 points 3 hours ago

There is the strong implication that people who vote DNC thinking things will improve by doing so are all Liberals.