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[–] osanna@lemmy.vg 204 points 3 days ago (19 children)

He could have been Elon rich, but he gave it all away and instead donates his meagre wealth tj schools and museums and shit. He was on slashdot recently and he said he was happy with his life. He’s a good guy. I wish him well.

[–] brem@lemmy.world 18 points 2 days ago

Woz is an example of how you can't get billions of dollars without being an absolute completely greedy piece of shit.

If value was based on worth, Musk would be his jester.

[–] IAmNorRealTakeYourMeds@lemmy.world 62 points 3 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (2 children)

fuck society for telling us that being super rich is the "winning state".

he has enough to never have to worry about anything in his life, and he's respected and beloved. that's orders of magnitude a better situation than any billionaire.

[–] Ibuthyr@lemmy.wtf 20 points 3 days ago (1 children)

I wouldn't want to be seen with any of those super rich cunts. I couldn't fathom worse people to hang around with.

they are mentally ill, the type where they should be locked up for the safety of others and their own.

[–] grrgyle@slrpnk.net 6 points 2 days ago

Ah but you don't crave xternal validation to such an extent that could never ever be satisfied

[–] auntieclokwise@lemmy.world 83 points 3 days ago (2 children)

Woz's net worth is estimated to be $100 million to $140 million. So, he's certainly no billionaire, but he doesn't exactly have meager wealth either. Honestly, I view $100 million as about the most a person should realistically have to still be remotely a normal person. After that, it's really just excess and power. That's enough where you've definitely won life - you can have lots of toys, a mansion, never need to work again, a very nice income in perpetuity, etc.

[–] VAK@lemmy.world 24 points 3 days ago
[–] osanna@lemmy.vg 18 points 3 days ago

Oh. He’s more rich than I thought.

[–] 1984@lemmy.today 33 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago)

He always was a good guy. Ripped off by Steve Jobs. Steve was brilliant but he ranked very low on empathy. It's surprising that he was a good speaker. Sam Altman and Zuckerberg is more like the pictures of a smart psychopath but Steve wasn't like that.

[–] muusemuuse@sh.itjust.works 41 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago) (2 children)

There’s a lie that incredible wealth makes people happier. That has never been true. It can remove certain stressors from your life, but it’s a trade. It comes at a cost. You have new stressors and those cannot ever be satisfied.

It’s not just a belief. There’s been studies confirming this. After a certain point adding wealth does nothing to your happiness. Go far enough and you end up miserable, enslaved by your wealth.

It’s a trap. Only a fool wants to be rich.

Woz understood this. He’s the real deal. Jobs did not. Jobs was a pretty damaged person and kept trying to fill that hole with wealth. It didn’t work. It just made him rich and angry. Woz was well adjusted and comfortable. He’s getting what he actually wanted out of life.

[–] Duamerthrax@lemmy.world 25 points 3 days ago (1 children)

John Carmack is another one. For all he's done, his net worth is only 50 million, but he spends his time developing new tech. I wouldn't say Carmack is well adjusted, but he doesn't seem to think making the lives of other people worse will make his life better.

[–] NekoKoneko@lemmy.world 31 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago)

Carmack very visibly just enjoys mental exercise. Watch any of his Quakecon keynotes if anyone needs to see it for themselves. The fact that it results in groundbreaking code for game engines, VR hyper-low latency algorithms, and rocketships is just a byproduct.

And that's probably the best way to not be turned into an alien by money: never be in it for the result, always find happiness in the process.

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[–] whoisearth@lemmy.ca 11 points 3 days ago (1 children)

How much of this do you think can be tied back to good parents?

[–] osanna@lemmy.vg 24 points 3 days ago (1 children)

I don’t really know. My parents suck. And for a while I did too, but I outgrew what my parents taught me and am now I better person.

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[–] LovableSidekick@lemmy.world 40 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (1 children)

I don't think "artificial intelligence" is the correct term for what we have now, because it implies it was artifically created but still intelligent. To me we're still at the stage of simulating intelligence, which isn't the same thing.

[–] TeddE@lemmy.world 15 points 2 days ago

I prefer the term Computer Intelligence to Artificial Intelligence or Synthetic Intelligence. It grounds the term in the computational logic of a math rock, and allows the intelligence not be a 'pass/fail', but rather what scales to what's been discovered.

It covers modern LLMs, but also includes classic fuzzy logic, probabilistic calculations, Bayesian networks, etc.

[–] Bahnd@lemmy.world 164 points 3 days ago

Woz continues to be the good Steve.

[–] sturmblast@lemmy.world 34 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago) (1 children)
[–] brem@lemmy.world 3 points 2 days ago
[–] Endymion_Mallorn@kbin.melroy.org 170 points 3 days ago (1 children)

The Great and Powerful Woz strikes again.

[–] Jackusflackus@lemmy.world 60 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago) (1 children)
[–] maturelemontree@lemmy.zip 17 points 3 days ago (5 children)

Holy shit I forgot code monkeys existed.

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[–] raman_klogius@ani.social 103 points 3 days ago (1 children)

He's the last techno-hippy in the age of techno-fascists

[–] explodicle@sh.itjust.works 8 points 3 days ago

He doesn't have to be. 🪞

[–] brem@lemmy.world 113 points 3 days ago (1 children)

Even if we live in the darkest timeline, at least we still have this Steve!

[–] Akasazh@lemmy.world 26 points 3 days ago (6 children)

It's the best Steve. Maybe he wouldn't have founded a global brand is e Jobs didn't do his job.

But he'd still be an awesome nerd Lord

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[–] gnufuu@infosec.pub 63 points 3 days ago (1 children)

I don't have many nice things to say about Apple but that guy is a legend

[–] jj4211@lemmy.world 45 points 3 days ago (1 children)

The Wozniak era of Apple was pretty much all upside. Whatever less than nice things to say at Apple almost certainly came about more than a decade after he had left them.

[–] muusemuuse@sh.itjust.works 12 points 3 days ago

It’s serving different pressures. Woz served the makers, the needs. He’s the Adam Savage of that generation. Jobs is a techbro. He’s innit for the money. He doesn’t care how or why it does a thing. He just needs to jerk off the investors. He was incredibly skilled at what he did, don’t get me wrong. He was absolutely brilliant there.

But they served different masters.

[–] jj4211@lemmy.world 38 points 3 days ago

A celebrity graduation speaker that actually has something thoughtful to say that is realistic, relevant, and inspirational to the graduates? That's crazy, everyone knows celebrity graduation speakers are supposed to be self absorbed and prattling on about the stuff that excites them without connecting to the graduates, except maybe to be dismissive of the graduates and look down on them.

[–] Bloefz@lemmy.world 35 points 3 days ago

He's always been a great guy 👏 And an amazing engineer

[–] lechekaflan@lemmy.world 31 points 3 days ago (1 children)

Man is goated, he's always on the hardware side. The Apple II era was the better era for DIY mods, complete opposite of the anti-repair hyperconsumerism of the corporation today.

the lid of the Apple II popped off toolless. They included fucking schematics.

[–] BeMoreCareful@lemmy.world 10 points 3 days ago

I didn't know he was a father.

[–] NotASharkInAManSuit@lemmy.world 11 points 3 days ago (2 children)

Steve Woz has always been such a fuckin’ chad.

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