I'm pretty sure my first gen Subaru Forester with a 1.5" lift has been in more fuckass places than 80% of jeeps ever sold.
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Also more than 90% of pickup trucks.
My first car was a Nissan altima, I pulled apart to get running. I wanted to go off road at a friend's property, there's not much difficult terrain, like bouldering or anything, just bumpy and filled with potholes that catch cars every time they hosted large events.
I put a 2in lift kit on it, and after becoming confident it won't get stuck at my friends house, I got a winch that I could store in the trunk, an extra scissor jack, took that fucker to the woods and tried a few trails popular with jeeps and Subarus.
It's crazy what kind of stuff you can get up to if you don't care a ton about the car you're driving. Eventually put the extra stuff in my pickup, and that car slowly got used less and less until it blew a gasket into cyl 5 and I decided I didn't want to pull the entire engine apart a second time.
So has my Audi A6 Allroad, bone stock. Actually, I think I took my Chrysler 300M to places no shiny new grand cherokee will ever be taken and that's a low fwd sedan. People used to ask me if it's been lowered and I told them it was just the factory handling package.
Stock jeeps, besides the wrangler and that pickup thingy maybe, aren't much good off road anyway. Which is fine because nobody who buys a brand new vehicle goes off roading with it usually. The Grenadier folks may be an exception.
Every person I've known that has a Jeep: I LOVE MY JEEP!
Me: You never have any problems with it?
Everyone: Oh yeah, all the time. But it's a JEEP!
Unironically this is just me with arch linux
Btw
Linux is fucking awesome. I can just fix so many of my problems in the terminal.
Unironically this is just me with arch linux btw 2: Electric Terminaloo
I'd rather have 5 problems with a piece of software and being able to investigate/fix them, than have 1 problem and be told "whoopsie doopsie, something went wrong, we made a fucky wucky, go pound sand about it"
That is exactly why I like programming waaay more than IT work.
... At least until the problem turns out to come from some core component in a key library that has yet to be fixed. Though that's way less common and easier to fix than when piece of canned software wants to get in a slapfight disagreeing with its own documentation...
For me it has been the exact opposite.Once you've set up arch, it just works (tm). On pop_os I get constant freezes and on W11 shit just randomly stops working.
My parents bought a Chrysler/ Stellantis product to tow their camper after I told them to buy literally anything else. Unsurprisingly it's a heap of shit.
The engine has a plastic oil cooler - sits in the engine valley, it cracked and leaked oil everywhere at 40k miles. Their plastic intake manifold leaks and sometimes when you start the shitbox there is a strong odor of gasoline 60k. The plastic valve covers leak 70k. Needed an entire front accessory/pulley assembly because the water pump was leaking - made of......plastic 80k. Shocks and struts are shot and causing tread cupping on the tires - 90k. In addition to this, when i drive it around I notice a few things - it's loud as shit. The engine sounds like it has shit timing or a flat cam or something. Exterior noise is terrible you hear everything. It shifts like an automatic from the 80s and it has 27 gears so it shifts constantly. I'm so sad for them but Dad got a great "deal" on it, I wonder why.
It's always been like this. Jeeps famous inline 6 that everyone raves about had the oil filter directly over the alternator so every time you change the oil you spill dirty oil all over the vehicle's main electrical components. It's like it was designed by monkeys and no owner has ever seen a Toyota
The Chevy Cruze I had until it ate a deer wasn't quite that bad, but now that I think about it it was way worse than my Kia. purchased at ~50k miles, it ate a deer at ~110k miles. Notable breakages are the drivers side window become impossible to roll up/down 3x (fixed twice. Literally relies on a single bolt which holds the window glass in place entirely by friction) at ~80k miles the plastic coupler on the engine coolant line cracked. around 100k miles the plastic intake hose also cracked causing the engine to produce a partial vaccum when it shouldn't and run super rough.
My in-laws have been having a similar experience with their brand new Ford Edge (last model year car so best it'll be, right?). First 6 months they had it it spent more time at the dealership than in their possession....
My Kia is currently approaching 100k miles (acquired at 7k miles!) and in that ~90k miles we've put on it...I've had to replace the windshield 3 times and once I needed to clear the clogged AC water drip but nothing has broken that wasn't a wear item or otherwise to be expected. Oh and the interior actually feels like it was designed and tested by people who have driven cars before, unlike the Chevy. This is also 10k miles after it was totalled by a hail storm so its really a trooper!
Unless something changes I'm never buying another car from an American brand because they're clearly all shit
"Just Empty Every Pocket," or "Just Expect Every Problem."
How did Jeep lose the plot? It became a rolling fortress for tin soldiers.
Well you just got me to listen to a guy rant in his basement bar for 25 minutes
I've revisited his channel off and on over the years. Most vids are, as the channel name implies, reviews of regular cars. I think it's the first long form video of his I've seen tackling a brand and what has become of its image. The humor and dry delivery is up my alley, and I figured it was worth sharing here.
I've also got family in rural PA and his basement bar could be any one of theirs. Those small towns and their old houses are frozen in time.
There actually two guys. This guy (roman) handles most of the technical stuff for their videos, and often makes long form historical videos about the car industry.
"Off road" pretty much always means "on crude roads," and this bothers me more than it should
I backed over my neighbors' flower bed. Does that count?
Oddly enough the only time I was heckled about driving a 4x4 in a city was when it was clean.
If I left the mud splatter on the wheel arches I never got heckled.
If you don't "look the part" then people will judge harshly regardless of how (in)capable you are at something.
Goes for a lot of things in life.
I don't wear a black hoodie to indicate that I know computer stuff, but it is remarkable how much more receptive non-techies are when I wear one. It's like a lab coat for computer doctors.
That's funny and fascinating.
Jeeps were really innovative when they were created... in World War 2. That's when they really were off-road vehicles. The pattern was repeated again with the Humvee, or HMMVW. It's not just converted military vehicles either. It's also race cars and rally cars. Some series have rules that to be legal a car also has to be a production model. Sometimes if you get that exact model you get a race-capable car. But, mostly the cars they sell are variants of the race design, which maintain the fast-looking design, but one which would handle terribly if you put it on an actual racetrack.
Shit. I made edibles. Had to test them. Now high. This made me laugh way too much 🤣🫠
I camp on jeep trails all the time but I've never owned a jeep. Currently driving a lifted Subaru. Thinking about a Tacoma for the future.
Stick with the Subie unless you need a truck bed.
My Dad owned a CJ4 for offroading out in the desert. POS broke down all the time. Ended up getting a Pathfinder and it was more capable and reliable.
Across Africa, Toyota Land Cruisers do the work. Defenders look cool and break a lot.
Other than that classic front grill and round headlights ... those things are just glorified hatchbacks with a lift-kit
Glorified hatchbacks with a lift-kit and a cult.
The rubicons do have a good kit and package for off roading, they are rarely used for that when new these days. Locking differentials and thick metal skid plates for example are typically an off road specific feature.
I've known several friends who have gone out to buy and own Jeeps ... a few with Rubicons .. and I have yet to see any of them take them off roading, or even on a rough dirt road. I had one female friend who constantly kept hers shined up and would get terribly upset if any mud or dust accumulated on the paint finish.
The culture has changed. The rubicon has been a package offer for several models and years. Usually its the 3rd or 4th owner that finally takes advantage of the package.
My hybrid bike has seen more mud in the past month than most trucks will see in a lifetime.
I live where being able to have the option to go off-road would be useful. But I took a Wrangler out for a test drive and it was like trying to fit in a Power Wheels. Thing was way too small for my tall ass. They didn't have the bigger one to check out at the dealer I went to. :(
Big trucks and SUVs tend to be horrible off road
I would rather a old minivan
Depends how off road. Cottage dirt road? Yea thats fine. Genuine off road trail with 2+ feet of water in some puddles and rocks/ruts that you actually need some bumper height for? Mini van probably won't cut it.
I FUCKING HATE THIS GRILLE SO MUCH
I remember when everyone made fun of getting a sports car or muscle car saying it was a way to compensate for a small dick.
I guess folks who drove jeeps wanted in on that particular segment of being made fun of and went hard into it.
Now those of us who do drive fast things are largely left in peace with our tiny peckers.
I'd be a lot more tolerant of people buying whatever they wanted if what they bought wasn't so goddamn offensive and dangerous
huge, loud, blinding headlights, blocks my view of the road, they always fucking pull up past the stop line so you can't see if it's safe to turn right on red, they have to hammer the gas to accelerate decently because they're massive, they can't fucking see anything around them because of blind spots and so they are always trying to back into people walking in parking lots, etc
Jeep hasn't made a decent Jeep since 2004 now their just mom rides
Their mom rides what?
Their mom rides only indecent jeeps since 2004