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[–] coalie@piefed.zip 178 points 5 days ago (9 children)

Well nuclear power plants create something more useful than ai data centers, nuclear waste.

[–] call_me_xale@lemmy.zip 94 points 5 days ago* (last edited 5 days ago) (2 children)

Hell, some of the more modern designs barely produce that...

[–] Grandwolf319@sh.itjust.works 34 points 5 days ago (2 children)

I still remember learning that and about breeder reactors (they produce fissile material from common isotopes) and feeling so betrayed by the common zeitgeist

[–] Mountainaire@lemmy.world 35 points 5 days ago (4 children)

Indeed, nuclear is among the safest and cleanest forms of energy currently available to us! All the waste in the world for life barely fills a few football fields' worth of space, if I recall correctly.

[–] McTavern@lemmy.world 17 points 5 days ago (2 children)

One football field 10 meters high to be precise.

[–] zurohki@aussie.zone 26 points 5 days ago* (last edited 5 days ago) (4 children)

One football field 10 meters high

You're mixing US and metric measurement systems there. You should either stick to meters or come up with a sports analogy for the height.

[–] arrow74@lemmy.zip 16 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago)

11.574 standard National Baseball League baseball bats high

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[–] Shadowklaw@slrpnk.net 28 points 5 days ago

Some groups have started to extract materials from nuclear waste that can provide Targeted Alpha Therapy for cancer patients, so very true.

[–] mnemonicmonkeys@sh.itjust.works 13 points 4 days ago

Nuclear waste can be reprocessed and reused. France has been doing it for decades. Or you could reuse it in a thorium reactor, which needs less reprocessing.

Another thing people forget about is that nuclear power is the main source for tritium, which we have a shortage of and it's getting worse as more nuclear plants are decommissioned. Tritium has a lot of uses, but it's most noteworthy use is fuel for fusion power. If decommission all nuclear plants, fusion research is effectively dead in the water

[–] Steve@communick.news 18 points 5 days ago

Electricity too

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[–] W3dd1e@lemmy.zip 20 points 3 days ago (1 children)

With a nuclear plant, there’s a teeny teeny tiny chance I’ll get Hulk powers.

With AI, I’ll probably just lose my job and destroy the planet.

[–] rmuk@feddit.uk 3 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago)

Yeah, sure but will an AI you can boil off a lake to generate pictures of me as a hulk, me as a hulk wearing no shirt, me as a hulk wearing ripped pants and I have something in my pants, can you generate nudity, can you generate pictures of naked if it's non sexual, pictures of me as a hulk getting changed and I just took off my pants to put on other pants non sexual, generate a picture of an eggplant, make the eggplant green, make the tip of the eggplant a darker shade, take the eggplant from @image2 and place it over the crotch of @image1, animate this image, do it again, do it again, starrjummps, do it again, delete my account.

[–] Nurse_Robot@lemmy.world 150 points 5 days ago (36 children)

I want to say "no shit" but then I remembered that most people have no idea how safe nuclear reactors actually are

[–] Jakeroxs@sh.itjust.works 80 points 5 days ago (30 children)

There's a huge anti-nuclear crowd, I'd prefer we focus on renewables as much as possible but it's stupid not to phase out oil/gas for nuclear as a more consistent source.

[–] CeeBee_Eh@lemmy.world 44 points 5 days ago (11 children)

There's a huge anti-nuclear crowd

Which was grass-rooted by oil companies back in the 70s.

[–] boonhet@sopuli.xyz 17 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago) (3 children)

astroturfed. Because it's fake grass-roots.

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[–] MithranArkanere@lemmy.world 32 points 4 days ago (2 children)

Generation IV power plants can be designed so that they are physically incapable of going into meltdown. And the technology is getting better and better at reusing the waste.

So, of course, one would prefer a nuclear power plant.

If anything, we really need to update old power plants and replace all other non-renewable plants with cleaner power, renewable or not.

[–] kalkulat@lemmy.world 4 points 3 days ago

Promises, promises. I haven't heard of one that's actually in commercial operation right now.

But, apples and oranges... it's a bullshit choice. Power plants generate power, DC's consume power.

If you going to generate power, why look beyond solar/wind and batteries? At a much lower price, and much faster build times, they too are 'physically incapable of going into meltdown', and are already in use worldwide, no wait time.

As far as DC's go, they depend on very new technology (enjoying a trendy fad) which -will- get far less power-hungry than they are. Or else. (The grid's not ready for them.)

The only people in a rush seem to be the people who invested in all the snake oil promises that LLM's are real A.I. ... which they aren't.

[–] Rooster326@programming.dev 6 points 4 days ago (3 children)

Bruh I think most of the people answering this are imagining 3-Mile Island...

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Well no shit. One of those things is actually useful.

[–] tunetardis@piefed.ca 43 points 5 days ago (2 children)

Nearly 50,000 residents of Lake Tahoe, a popular tourist destination in the Sierra Nevada Mountains, have been told their utility company will stop providing them with electricity in 2027. The utility, NV Energy, will instead use that power for data centers in northern Nevada, one of the fastest growing data center corridors in the nation and where Google, Microsoft and Apple have all either built or planned facilities, Fortune reported. Residents have until next May to find a new electric provider.

Wow, that's rather appalling. Ars has a longer write-up about it.

[–] titanicx@lemmy.zip 19 points 4 days ago (1 children)

Utah just approved a data center that is supposed to be larger then Manhattan. And uses more power then the entire state currently. We are so fucked.

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[–] Gormadt@slrpnk.net 14 points 4 days ago (1 children)

"You will no longer be provided power in 7 months time, good luck." - Their local power company.

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[–] echodot@feddit.uk 28 points 4 days ago

Well yeah. Nuclear power plant somehow manage to consume less water

[–] Denixen@feddit.nu 26 points 4 days ago (9 children)

Since data centers will be run by nuclear power on-site in the future they will soon have both...

[–] boonhet@sopuli.xyz 18 points 4 days ago (11 children)

Why build a nuclear power plant with your data center if you could just get power from the grid and drive up everyone else's price too? It's cheaper for the data center operator.

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[–] Sixtyforce@sh.itjust.works 15 points 4 days ago

I like things that don't vibrate in such a way that it makes me want to vomit and die, true.

[–] Tiral@lemmy.zip 6 points 3 days ago (1 children)

Why would anyone care to have a power plant near them? The last one in the US that failed was almost 50 years ago. I'm not saying there can't be accidents, but they're pretty safe. You're like 1,000,000x more likely to die on your commute to work.

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[–] mojofrododojo@lemmy.world 8 points 4 days ago

gotta be careful here because they'll take that as consent for both. "GEE IF THE POWER IS ALREADY THERE...."

[–] technocrit@lemmy.dbzer0.com 14 points 4 days ago (1 children)
[–] freely1333@reddthat.com 10 points 4 days ago

Actually what is going to happen lol

[–] Gormadt@slrpnk.net 18 points 4 days ago

Of course, one of them actually does good for my community.

[–] roserose56@lemmy.zip 10 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago) (8 children)

Are you nuts? And miss all the heat that data center will provide you yearly? Imagine in summer having heat from the data center!
You need to stop asking for nuclear power plants, data center is the feature, and you have to accept it! Period.

[–] Rivalarrival@lemmy.today 7 points 4 days ago

Pretty sure the nuclear plant will provide significantly more heat. I mean, those giant cooling towers are specifically designed to unload heat into the atmosphere.

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[–] MoogleMaestro@lemmy.zip 19 points 5 days ago

Electricity production vs electricity waste, the choice is pretty obvious honestly.

Ignoring the fact that I also don't think I could trust any company in 2026 to maintain a nuclear power plant well, it feels like we've actually gone backwards in that front specifically.

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