Well nuclear power plants create something more useful than ai data centers, nuclear waste.
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Hell, some of the more modern designs barely produce that...
I still remember learning that and about breeder reactors (they produce fissile material from common isotopes) and feeling so betrayed by the common zeitgeist
Indeed, nuclear is among the safest and cleanest forms of energy currently available to us! All the waste in the world for life barely fills a few football fields' worth of space, if I recall correctly.
One football field 10 meters high to be precise.
One football field 10 meters high
You're mixing US and metric measurement systems there. You should either stick to meters or come up with a sports analogy for the height.
11.574 standard National Baseball League baseball bats high
Some groups have started to extract materials from nuclear waste that can provide Targeted Alpha Therapy for cancer patients, so very true.
Nuclear waste can be reprocessed and reused. France has been doing it for decades. Or you could reuse it in a thorium reactor, which needs less reprocessing.
Another thing people forget about is that nuclear power is the main source for tritium, which we have a shortage of and it's getting worse as more nuclear plants are decommissioned. Tritium has a lot of uses, but it's most noteworthy use is fuel for fusion power. If decommission all nuclear plants, fusion research is effectively dead in the water
Electricity too
With a nuclear plant, there’s a teeny teeny tiny chance I’ll get Hulk powers.
With AI, I’ll probably just lose my job and destroy the planet.
Yeah, sure but will an AI you can boil off a lake to generate pictures of me as a hulk, me as a hulk wearing no shirt, me as a hulk wearing ripped pants and I have something in my pants, can you generate nudity, can you generate pictures of naked if it's non sexual, pictures of me as a hulk getting changed and I just took off my pants to put on other pants non sexual, generate a picture of an eggplant, make the eggplant green, make the tip of the eggplant a darker shade, take the eggplant from @image2 and place it over the crotch of @image1, animate this image, do it again, do it again, starrjummps, do it again, delete my account.
I want to say "no shit" but then I remembered that most people have no idea how safe nuclear reactors actually are
There's a huge anti-nuclear crowd, I'd prefer we focus on renewables as much as possible but it's stupid not to phase out oil/gas for nuclear as a more consistent source.
There's a huge anti-nuclear crowd
Which was grass-rooted by oil companies back in the 70s.
Generation IV power plants can be designed so that they are physically incapable of going into meltdown. And the technology is getting better and better at reusing the waste.
So, of course, one would prefer a nuclear power plant.
If anything, we really need to update old power plants and replace all other non-renewable plants with cleaner power, renewable or not.
Promises, promises. I haven't heard of one that's actually in commercial operation right now.
But, apples and oranges... it's a bullshit choice. Power plants generate power, DC's consume power.
If you going to generate power, why look beyond solar/wind and batteries? At a much lower price, and much faster build times, they too are 'physically incapable of going into meltdown', and are already in use worldwide, no wait time.
As far as DC's go, they depend on very new technology (enjoying a trendy fad) which -will- get far less power-hungry than they are. Or else. (The grid's not ready for them.)
The only people in a rush seem to be the people who invested in all the snake oil promises that LLM's are real A.I. ... which they aren't.
Bruh I think most of the people answering this are imagining 3-Mile Island...
Well no shit. One of those things is actually useful.
Nearly 50,000 residents of Lake Tahoe, a popular tourist destination in the Sierra Nevada Mountains, have been told their utility company will stop providing them with electricity in 2027. The utility, NV Energy, will instead use that power for data centers in northern Nevada, one of the fastest growing data center corridors in the nation and where Google, Microsoft and Apple have all either built or planned facilities, Fortune reported. Residents have until next May to find a new electric provider.
Wow, that's rather appalling. Ars has a longer write-up about it.
Utah just approved a data center that is supposed to be larger then Manhattan. And uses more power then the entire state currently. We are so fucked.
"You will no longer be provided power in 7 months time, good luck." - Their local power company.
Well yeah. Nuclear power plant somehow manage to consume less water
Since data centers will be run by nuclear power on-site in the future they will soon have both...
Why build a nuclear power plant with your data center if you could just get power from the grid and drive up everyone else's price too? It's cheaper for the data center operator.
I like things that don't vibrate in such a way that it makes me want to vomit and die, true.
Why would anyone care to have a power plant near them? The last one in the US that failed was almost 50 years ago. I'm not saying there can't be accidents, but they're pretty safe. You're like 1,000,000x more likely to die on your commute to work.
gotta be careful here because they'll take that as consent for both. "GEE IF THE POWER IS ALREADY THERE...."
Why not both? \s
Actually what is going to happen lol
Of course, one of them actually does good for my community.
Are you nuts? And miss all the heat that data center will provide you yearly? Imagine in summer having heat from the data center!
You need to stop asking for nuclear power plants, data center is the feature, and you have to accept it! Period.
Pretty sure the nuclear plant will provide significantly more heat. I mean, those giant cooling towers are specifically designed to unload heat into the atmosphere.
Electricity production vs electricity waste, the choice is pretty obvious honestly.
Ignoring the fact that I also don't think I could trust any company in 2026 to maintain a nuclear power plant well, it feels like we've actually gone backwards in that front specifically.