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Frances switchted to Linux on 2.5 million PCs

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[–] Jimbo@pawb.social 92 points 5 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago) (4 children)

I wonder how much money the government is saving on Windows licences alone

[–] rockSlayer@lemmy.blahaj.zone 79 points 5 days ago (5 children)

I just checked Microsoft's website. They're trying to make windows enterprise a subscription model. The current cost for what they're calling "windows 365" is $99/yr per user. They're saving nearly $250 million a year, or €211 Million

[–] damnthefilibuster@lemmy.world 49 points 5 days ago

Probably also saving 100 to 200 million euros more in servicing fees. Licenses are but one component of cost models these days for companies. Sure, they will still have to find a vendor to service their Linux systems, but there should be a lot more cost flexibility in that space.

[–] limonfiesta@lemmy.world 37 points 5 days ago* (last edited 5 days ago)

That might be the MSRP, but it's not what they were paying.

They're going to have at minimum three different types of "discounts" applied to their price:

  • Volume discount
  • Government discount
  • Tenure discount

If I had to guess, it would knock anywhere from 30% to 60% off MSRP.

[–] mateG@discuss.tchncs.de 22 points 5 days ago* (last edited 5 days ago) (3 children)

Windows 365 is the "cloud PC" that Microsoft is hosting as a VM in Azure. So you have a thin client that only connects to the VM over the internet. It's very niche and pretty expensive. Regular windows licenses, especially with their volume of licensing will be a lot less. But they still save millions on licenses, especially for the M365 office licenses that they now no longer need.

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[–] Buelldozer@lemmy.today 9 points 5 days ago (2 children)

The current cost for what they’re calling “windows 365” is $99/yr per user.

Windows 365 Enterprise basic starts $31 per user per month and goes up from there.

I suspect you are confusing Windows 365 with Microsoft 365. The former includes a virtual (Cloud) PC and licensing for Windows and Office, the latter only provides Office licensing. Additionally the price point you quoted makes me think you are looking at Personal / Home pricing because Commercial & Government Office 365 pricing is calculated per user / per month and will vary wildly in price from $10 pu/pm to $50+ pu/pm.

[–] Feathercrown@lemmy.world 8 points 5 days ago (1 children)

I hate MS product names I hate MS product names I hate MS product names

I'm surprised one of those hasn't been rebranded to copilot 365 yet

[–] Meron35@lemmy.world 4 points 4 days ago (1 children)
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And if they put something like 10% of those savings back into developing more open source tech it would be a huge boost to the global community.

[–] WagnasT@piefed.world 16 points 5 days ago (1 children)

I've always wondered if the money saved from licenses would cover the cost of new full time employees to pick up support, it probably depends on the org size.

[–] hitmyspot@aussie.zone 22 points 5 days ago (1 children)

It’s not like they don’t need staff to support windows.

[–] towerful@programming.dev 7 points 5 days ago

I read it as "pick up support for the FOSS projects" as opposed to user IT support.
So, contributing to the FOSS.
Even sponsorship would be awesome, in a "we can't do the tech stuff, but here is 10% of what we saved" kinda way

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[–] ivn@tarte.nuage-libre.fr 75 points 5 days ago (2 children)

That article is trash. Ministries have only been asked to come up with a plan of what’s possible to do to switch but I highly doubt most will switch. The education ministry recently renewed it’s Microsoft contract and I don’t think there is anything enforcing a switch, it’s only a “please look at what could be possible” thing. The only thing switching for sure is the DINUM, about 250 people, a lot of them already using Linux. But this is the start of an experiment where they are building some NixOS configurations that could be used if a larger switch was to happen. Believe it or not, they NixOS configs are names Sécurix and Bureautix.

[–] FauxLiving@lemmy.world 15 points 5 days ago (11 children)

It's overselling it, but the move towards digital sovereignty isn't a passing fad.

The various revelations over the years about the US spying on allies and Microsoft famously telling the EU(?) that they could not guarantee that their data would not be turned over to the US government has all but ensured that this is going to happen as a matter of national security.

They can't have their government dependent on systems that could be disabled at any time for political reasons, like the sanctions applied to the ICC judge on the genocide case against Israel.

It was one thing when the US was an ally, but now we are not a dependable ally and these countries are reorganizing their security posture in recognition of that fact.

Linux is the only viable operating system that is not vulnerable to US government sponsored supply chain attacks. While it may not be deployed everywhere immediately, the directive to agencies to start planning for the transition is the first step in the process and critical services will transition much sooner.

This will happen regardless of what happens in the election, Trump has exposed the weaknesses in our system of government and the attitude of US elites towards other countries. No sane country would trust US tech given the direction of things.

[–] ivn@tarte.nuage-libre.fr 8 points 5 days ago (2 children)

I hope you're right but I can assure you our government is very good at making grand announces not followed by anything, or even by the opposite. Also our far right, which might very well win the next election, is very much pro-Trump.

Our education ministry keeps signing huge Microsoft contracts, our health data is stored by Microsoft, our intelligence agency use Palantir, our government is mostly on X… I'm forgetting a lot of other things. They are also pushing hard for regulations against privacy, weakening encryption, chat-control…

There are some small nice things here and there like our Gendarmerie using Ubuntu, the DINUM making a lot of open-source tools… But it's really a drop in the water.

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[–] Feathercrown@lemmy.world 7 points 5 days ago (1 children)

Using NixOS as an imaging tool by distributing a config is pretty neat and I would love to see it happen. I'm surprised they were competent enough to see that route; I wonder who's behind this initiative?

[–] ivn@tarte.nuage-libre.fr 6 points 5 days ago (1 children)

That's the Interministerial Digital Directorate, they are very competent.

https://github.com/cloud-gouv

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[–] sp3ctr4l@lemmy.dbzer0.com 52 points 5 days ago (1 children)

Boy I sure do remember a lot of people in the last ten years tell me its completely impossible to run any kind of modern enterprise set up without Windows.

Wow!

They were all fucking wrong!

Who could have guessed!

[–] cogman@lemmy.world 21 points 4 days ago (2 children)

10 years ago, a significant number of enterprise software was written as windows native apps. What's changed is now everything is a webapp and linux runs firefox/chrome/chromium/edge/etc just fine.

[–] Aceticon@lemmy.dbzer0.com 5 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago)

Also, already 10 years ago, corporate backends were pretty much already all running on Linux.

In big companies the stuff running in Windows has long been just been the Views in a multi-tiered Model-View-Controller systems architecture, whilst the data and logic sat in servers.

From my own experience, on the technical side it's mainly the sunk cost into making the custom frontends in Windows and certain apps used to fill the gaps not covered by corporate systems (for example Excel and Outlook) that have held Windows in place.

On the management side, it's probably a question of support contracts and friendly rather than professional relationships with specific Windows-only 3rd party vendors.

Not at all denying your point (which I totally agree with), just pointing out that in big enough companies to have their own software developers and proprietary systems, the movement away from Windows has been going on longer than that, just less visible to most people because what was being moved over was back and middle tier stuff.

Whilst people kept dreaming about the Year Of Linux On The Desktop, Linux had, since the 90s, quietly and steadilly been eating away at the responsabilities of software running on the Desktop.

[–] BJ_and_the_bear@lemmy.world 5 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago)

I'm in the lucky position that I get to run Linux on my work machines in an otherwise Windows environment (helps that I'm in the IT dept). Enterprise apps are actually a lot better about supporting Linux these days. Zoom, WebEx, TigerConnect (healthcare focused HIPAA compliant messenger) all have native Linux versions. Also, the CrowdStrike EDR agent supports Linux too, which was helpful to get approval to run Linux. Support is good in IT specific tools too. VMWare remote console and ~~VMWare~~ Omnissa Horizon client also support Linux natively, so I use Horizon to connect to a VM when I actually do need Windows. Most of the Cisco management tools that aren't web based work too, e.g. CUCM RTMT, but they are in Java so not too surprising. The only stickler really is Microsoft products. I use Teams, Sharepoint and Outlook as PWA though, which is good enough for me (do all my actual document editing in LibreOffice though). Typically the only thing I actually need to log into actual Windows VM for is Windows Server Management Tools to manage AD, DHCP, DNS etc

[–] nosuchanon@lemmy.world 49 points 5 days ago
[–] tirateimas@lemmy.pt 51 points 5 days ago (1 children)

And they will be better served with this solution.

[–] WhatAmLemmy@lemmy.world 25 points 5 days ago

The most important benefit is that a fascist dictatorship can't brick all your governments computers because an incontinent pedophile got his feefees hurt.

If you think that's far fetched, you have no idea how mentally-ill and psychopathic fascists are.

[–] hanrahan@slrpnk.net 22 points 4 days ago (2 children)

i never understood why my Government in Australia doesn't have a tech division a Linux version to use, Libre Office software etc a messenger service, an email and a Mastodon instance. Doesn't mean you have to use them by the Governments should and be available to all including our Oceania brothers if they wish including funding them.

Giving up digital sovereignty is beyond my understanding, let alone hosting Government. and financial services on foreign owned cloud services.

[–] Ogy@lemmy.world 11 points 4 days ago

Yeah not having a government issued email is completely bonkers in this day and age. They should never have allowed Google to fill that gap.

[–] palarith@aussie.zone 3 points 4 days ago

Linux? I think we still using windows 10

[–] Blackout@fedia.io 31 points 5 days ago (1 children)

So lucky. I hate W11 so much but dumb software developers keep me walled in

[–] Truscape@lemmy.blahaj.zone 12 points 5 days ago

You could try running your windows-locked programs via Wine, Proton, or a VM-based solution for the worst offenders on a Linux distro (unless your employer requires you to run windows on bare metal, and I give you my condolences).

[–] misk@piefed.social 24 points 5 days ago* (last edited 5 days ago) (3 children)

Title makes it sound like a done deal but so far there’s a promise that there will be a plan in a few months.

The shift to Linux is happening and every French government ministry is required to put its migration plan in place by the fall of 2026, including considering complementary software such as antivirus, collaborative tools, and so on.

[–] DarrinBrunner@lemmy.world 10 points 5 days ago (1 children)

The shift to Linux is happening

Sounds like the shift to Linux is happening. I'm guessing by law. So, the first step is prep and planning, they aren't going to back out of it, it just takes time to move an entire government over to a new OS.

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[–] xSikes@feddit.online 22 points 5 days ago (1 children)
[–] raspberriesareyummy@lemmy.world 26 points 5 days ago* (last edited 5 days ago) (3 children)

No, I think it's everywhere.

[–] Captain_Buddha@lemmy.world 16 points 5 days ago

Hon Hon hon.

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[–] Th4tGuyII@fedia.io 18 points 5 days ago (1 children)

Would be lovely if my Government would even consider that.
I hate using Win11, but it seems we're so entrenched with Microslop that they're even giving "officially endorsed" courses on how to use Co-Pilot.

I understand that AI and Neural Networks have their uses, but why are people so willing to give up their ability to think and write for themselves??

[–] Bamboodpanda@lemmy.world 6 points 5 days ago (4 children)

Time is the main reason. In jobs where you write dozens of client-facing emails every day, small time savings compound fast.

Most people working in Outlook all day are doing exactly this kind of work: responding to clients, coordinating projects, clarifying requests, following up, documenting decisions, and managing constant communication.

Instead of writing every email from scratch, I can give AI instructions like:

“Read the email chain. The client needs X, Y, and Z. Write a draft reply in my voice.”

That takes seconds instead of several minutes per email. Across an entire workday, that can save hours.

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[–] Aceticon@lemmy.dbzer0.com 7 points 4 days ago

If only the muppets in my homeland were half as competent as the bloody French.

[–] skisnow@lemmy.ca 5 points 4 days ago

France for whatever reason tends not to export much tech, so I think many people don't realize how tech-savvy they have historically always been.

[–] bizarroland@lemmy.world 10 points 5 days ago

Now for funzies, we need to get them to install the steam client.

[–] sbeak@sopuli.xyz 12 points 5 days ago (1 children)

Very cool! France is working towards achieving digital independent from US megacorps, and maybe this means more funding towards the development of open-source software!

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[–] HMWYSPlease@lemmy.org 3 points 4 days ago

I hope they do the more users there are the faster improvements will happen and the more support for things in general.

[–] Mulligrubs@lemmy.world 5 points 4 days ago

Fantastic, it's amazing what you can do when you don't have billionaires on the stage patting each other on the back and laughing with each election.

[–] Zaphod@discuss.tchncs.de 2 points 4 days ago

2.5 Million government PCs seems like a lot

[–] Gnergy@piefed.europe.pub 5 points 5 days ago (1 children)

why, great news!

So I suspect they are also dropping their plans to require age verification on social media?

After all, public code repositories which are essential for developing the software they're switching to are... also a form of social media, correct? Surely they do not want to sabotage its development by requiring those repos to implement costly age verification? Right?

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