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[–] chilicheeselies@lemmy.world 8 points 2 hours ago

The wet dream for big tech has been to get people to pay subscription fees for compute, just like businesses do for cloud hosting. They tried with Stadia to get people to play games hosted in the cloud, but that was never going to fly.

With the compute demands of AI (which is comparable to a AAA game except for the largest models), they dont want to make the same mistake and let you have the compute. They see this as an oppurtunity for subscription fees for the earth.

The fact that we cant get hardware for a reasonable price is an added bonus to this plan.

All of this only works of everyone subscribes to this shit. Businesses will, because its just easier to manage it. Consumers though should not give in. If you want to run an agent, use a small local model.

The best thing that can be done is to make local open source agents and models approachable for regular users. Right now, they arent.

[–] GreenBeanMachine@lemmy.world 16 points 4 hours ago* (last edited 4 hours ago) (1 children)

So there's more supply than demand, meaning they should become really cheap. Right? That's fucking good news.

What collapse are you talking about? Profit collapse for greedy corporations?

[–] floofloof@lemmy.ca 4 points 3 hours ago (1 children)

Sure, you may be able to buy a cheaper motherboard for a while. But you'll pay through the nose to populate it, hence the falling motherboard sales.

[–] GreenBeanMachine@lemmy.world 2 points 3 hours ago

If they get dirty cheap, I might just replace my old one using old parts

[–] febra@lemmy.world 9 points 4 hours ago

I have a home server waiting around for an SSD for a year now. I have the money, but I don't like feeling like I'm getting scammed. So I'd rather wait for this market to collapse than give them my money.

[–] farmgineer@nord.pub 3 points 4 hours ago

I was originally thinking of grabbing parts as they go on sale finally (this PC is from 2018ish, I think, and I guess I could upgrade some bits), but I think I'm just going to wait and get a laptop. In part because I do less gaming, the gaming is less intense, and I'm thinking about trying to spend part of the year living outside of Japan which would make the logistics of shipping a heavy full tower around (or even mid if I downsized) just too much of a headache. Still not 100% sure, though.

[–] msage@programming.dev 9 points 6 hours ago (1 children)

Can we create a fund with gamers, and then buy the manufacturers that go under?

We need just one of each, MB, PS, GPU, hopefully something for CPU will be buyable as well.

[–] boonhet@sopuli.xyz 2 points 5 hours ago (1 children)

For CPU and GPU, our options are mostly TSMC, Samsung and Intel. Nvidia and AMD don't really have fabs. Any of those can also help with the other chips on a motherboard. Samsung also do NAND so they'd be the best to acquire.

[–] Upgrayedd1776@sh.itjust.works 2 points 2 hours ago

I think Samsung is going to get hit with helium shortages which are needed in fab, outside of hormuz the US is the only one with a locked supply

[–] Goldholz@lemmy.blahaj.zone 2 points 4 hours ago

THE COLLAPS HAS BEGUN!

...if i understand it correctly?

[–] vogi@piefed.social 11 points 7 hours ago* (last edited 6 hours ago)

right before mother's day as well! smh.

[–] Hupf@feddit.org 1 points 4 hours ago

Reaper going from door to door meme

[–] chunes@lemmy.world 30 points 12 hours ago (3 children)

How has this whole saga not been an obvious indictment of 'the free market?'

Big players shouldn't be allowed to gobble up all the resources needed by small ones. How is it not obvious that they need to wait until production increases to meet their needs before embarking on their little project?

[–] BarneyPiccolo@lemmy.cafe 1 points 2 hours ago

There is no Free Market, that's just a myth they tell us to allow them to do whatever they want. They don't really want a true Free Market because it leads to Luigis.

[–] Venator@lemmy.nz 22 points 9 hours ago (1 children)

The free market means the market is free to fuck you. Yes you in particular 😅

[–] Upgrayedd1776@sh.itjust.works 2 points 2 hours ago

mankind's oldest trade, but doesnt compare to the fact that in 1998, The Undertaker threw Mankind off Hell In A Cell, and plummeted 16 ft through an announcer's table.

[–] ArmchairAce1944@discuss.online 31 points 12 hours ago (2 children)

No this is exactly what the free market is. Regulations that make things fairer for small people is communism.

[–] boonhet@sopuli.xyz 2 points 5 hours ago (1 children)

What about regulations that make things fairer for tall people?

[–] Asfalttikyntaja@sopuli.xyz 5 points 4 hours ago

That’s a whataboutism.

[–] kiranraine@reddthat.com 10 points 11 hours ago (1 children)

Then give me communism bc this free market shiz aint it. Giving us the scraps that AI doesn't want is just nuts if we get anything at all. Esp since no one beyond billionaires want this ai crap

[–] BeMoreCareful@lemmy.world 1 points 4 hours ago

It's like a dozen people gaming ever one else for the rest of the chairs on the Titanic.

They want to buy the dip

[–] shirro@aussie.zone 38 points 14 hours ago

Who knew cartels were bad for markets? I am sure economists and regulators were screaming at legislators for years but I guess they couldn't hear them over the sound of the bags of dirty lobbyist money landing on their desks.

And then there are the financial "irregularities" funding the AI boom which are also not getting any attention.

[–] eestileib@lemmy.blahaj.zone 296 points 21 hours ago (37 children)

AI is an amazing tool for fascists.

Annihilate private access to computing, censor and rewrite all comms, destroy free software and the last remnants of education...

Every single decision made for evil.

And all these vendors who are locking themselves into one customer are about to learn why that's a bad idea.

[–] Tollana1234567@lemmy.today 2 points 7 hours ago* (last edited 7 hours ago)

AI is used as propaganda tools to spread it, and it can bee seen on youtube, social media quite readily. plus it sexualizes victims to like csam, and festishized unattainable "women" for conservatives.

conservaties pretty much buys into/believes in anything that is scammy.

[–] snooggums@piefed.world 68 points 20 hours ago

The worst thing is that when used for good AI is fantastic! Scientific progress with purpose built AI to find planets, predict the weather, and tons of pattern matching has been in use for decades with positive benefits!

Even LLMs can be a useful tool in the right situations where looking like words people would say but accuracy is NOT important.

The problem is trying to use LLMs to do everything and failing while running the tech industry, the environment, and soon the economy into the ground. They took something positive, ruined it and coopted the terminology while shoving it down everyone's throats.

[–] MrKoyun@lemmy.world 7 points 14 hours ago (1 children)

How are they about to learn why that's a bad idea? Like, when the bubble pops?

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[–] DigDoug@lemmy.world 32 points 20 hours ago (3 children)

Motherboards were already way too goddamn expensive, anyway.

About a year ago I was considering upgrading my AM4 PC to AM5. The rock-bottom cheapest motherboards were only slightly cheaper than the relatively high-end one I got 5-ish years ago. I decided to stick with my current PC.

[–] doingthestuff@lemy.lol 5 points 12 hours ago

Yeah I'm going to be running AM4, DDR4, with my 5800x for many more years the way it's looking.

[–] floofloof@lemmy.ca 18 points 17 hours ago (1 children)

There's going to be a lot of us running 2019-vintage PCs indefinitely.

[–] GenChadT@infosec.pub 5 points 14 hours ago* (last edited 14 hours ago)

Just repasted both of mine with phase change materials and thermal putty, including GPU dies. Looking at getting better/more fans and a smarter hub soon. Gonna make this 5800X3D last as long as possible; I'm in this for the long haul lol

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[–] Asafum@lemmy.world 42 points 21 hours ago (10 children)

If we can't make a time machine to go backwards, can we at least pause time? The future absolutely fucking sucks, let's just avoid it altogether lol

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[–] commander@lemmy.world 33 points 21 hours ago (8 children)

I keep thinking maybe things will good by 2030 and remember that's 4 years away. Game devs please target the Steam Deck and Switch 2 as the baseline. Mid range and high end is just too premium for most people. Even entry level enthusiast gaming hardware is too expensive because of memory and storage. Steam Deck and Switch 2 are good low power draw integrated graphics level. That's not terrible for pricing

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