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Ryan Grim column

article by Krystal Kyle & Friends
Nov 06, 2024

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[–] MMNT@lemmy.world 82 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Bernie is seen as a threat to wealthy democrats and their business interests.

[–] GuyDudeman@lemmy.world 25 points 2 years ago
[–] Madrigal@lemmy.world 39 points 2 years ago

We knew this in 2016 too.

He wouldn’t win because the rich cunts who actually run the US wouldn’t want that.

[–] SquirtleHermit@lemmy.world 24 points 2 years ago (1 children)

He was literally the runner up in the Democrats last primary, he has a massively passionate following, and was one of the most pro Palestine candidates available. It's kinda crazy how the idea wasn't even floated.

[–] BossDj@lemm.ee 12 points 2 years ago

This is why there was no primary

[–] homesweethomeMrL@lemmy.world 16 points 2 years ago (2 children)

Yes he would have.

The only problem is he didn't.

If you want to put it down to DNC hamstringing him, ok but primary after primary he didn't win.

I wish he had.

[–] FlashMobOfOne@lemmy.world 6 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

In 2016 he surely did. That's when the superdelegates were out in full force.

In 2020 it was a much more concentrated backstage effort to hamstring his candidacy, from when they cheated the coin flip between he and Pete, orchestrated an embarrassing debate episode with CNN, and handed out favors to the more popular candidates to drop out and endorse Biden, who was never higher than 5th in popularity, only barely ahead of Mike Bloomberg.

The Dems played dirty. They were sued in court for it and argued that it was their right, publicly.

So, I don't think it's factual to pretend they ever won fair and square.

The irony is that Sanders speaks so eloquently to workers and the poor, and he had widespread support among men, something the Dems have been losing to their detriment since 2008.

[–] curiousaur@reddthat.com 2 points 2 years ago (1 children)

What primary after primary?

[–] homesweethomeMrL@lemmy.world 2 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Not in 2024 because he didn't run, but in 2020 when he did.

He won Iowa, but on Super Tuesday he lost all but North Dakota.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bernie_Sanders_2020_presidential_campaign

[–] curiousaur@reddthat.com 1 points 2 years ago (1 children)

So when was the other one?

[–] homesweethomeMrL@lemmy.world 1 points 2 years ago

State primaries. there's like, I dunno 40 of 'em or something.

[–] morphballganon@lemmy.world 13 points 2 years ago (1 children)

A ticket could have won with Bernie...

... as VP.

[–] goferking0@lemmy.sdf.org 5 points 2 years ago (2 children)

Based on how they sidelined waltz I doubt Bernie as vp would have helped

[–] njm1314@lemmy.world 5 points 2 years ago

Seriously we don't talk enough about this. I was so excited when Waltz was nominated as the VP. That's what got me first interested in that campaign. However you're absolutely right they started sideline him almost immediately. It was shocking to see in real time. Such a strong start and then they just put him in a corner.

[–] morphballganon@lemmy.world 0 points 2 years ago

I never said anything about keeping Kamala or the same advisors.

[–] Iheartcheese@lemmy.world 8 points 2 years ago (1 children)
[–] cuerdo@lemmy.world 4 points 2 years ago

Deep Covert Social Media Propagabda Won.

They managed to make president the most heinous person in history.

I love Bernie, but he would not have stood a chance.