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Documenting hate speech, conspiracy theories, apologia/revisionism, and general tankie behaviour across the fediverse. Memes are welcome!


What is a Tankie?


Alternatively, a detailed blog post about Tankies.

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Hate-Speech — You should be familiar with this one already; practically all instances have the same rules on hate speech.

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[–] mysticpickle@lemmy.ca 76 points 2 years ago (1 children)
[–] luves2spooge@lemmy.world 6 points 2 years ago (2 children)

What's a "tankie" instance?

[–] odium@programming.dev 31 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 children)

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tankie

More generally, a tankie is someone who tends to support "militant opposition to capitalism", and a more modern online variation, which means "something like 'a self-proclaimed communist who indulges in conspiracy theories and whose rhetoric is largely performative.'" He was critical of both uses.[21] The Intercept journalist Roane Carey identified the "key element in the tankie mindset [as] the simple-minded assumption that only the United States can be imperialist, and thus any country that opposes the U.S. must be supported."[22]

Tankies on lemmy.ml and hexbear tend to support all authoritarian communists from Stalin to Mao. They defend Russia and hate Ukraine. They defend Hamas (not just supporting Palestinian civilians but the Hamas organization too). They defend everything China does. They deny the existence of many of the atrocities committed by any country in opposition to the US.

[–] luves2spooge@lemmy.world 6 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Thanks for the explanation. I'd never heard it before and assumed it was a lemmy thing.

[–] Telodzrum@lemmy.world 9 points 2 years ago
[–] goat@sh.itjust.works 12 points 2 years ago

Hexbear, lemmy.ml and lemmygrad are the main Tankie instances

[–] rustyfish@lemmy.world 23 points 2 years ago

Are drawings real?

Ah! Classic.

[–] YeetPics@mander.xyz 14 points 2 years ago

Their moral stance was manufactured, don't think for a second any of these dishonest pricks believe their own lies.

[–] r3df0x@7.62x54r.ru 13 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Tankies have historically opposed porn for being harmful to people and probably considered it a form of bourgeois hedonism or decadence.

[–] goat@sh.itjust.works 15 points 2 years ago (1 children)
[–] Someonelol@lemmy.dbzer0.com 7 points 2 years ago

They're hypocrites if not rabid anti US imperialists.

[–] workerONE@lemmy.world 10 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 children)

What happened? Just looks like an accusation

[–] goat@sh.itjust.works 12 points 2 years ago (1 children)

couldn't find any evidence of them defending CP, that's an accusation from the tankies there.

But here's the context for the transphobia https://sh.itjust.works/post/23147589?scrollToComments=true

[–] workerONE@lemmy.world 1 points 2 years ago

Yeah that's crazy but there's lots of crazy people in this world.

[–] Someonelol@lemmy.dbzer0.com 7 points 2 years ago
[–] TexMexBazooka@lemm.ee 5 points 2 years ago

Ah good, let them work out their differences and the adults will continue on unaffected

[–] h3mlocke@lemm.ee 4 points 2 years ago