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Star Trek fans have held the national stereotype of being way too rabid about things for decades but they’re probably the nicest fan base in all of science fiction and the one least likely to have a large faction of them absolutely lose it over a torpedo being fired by a woman or dumb shit like that

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[–] bappity@lemmy.world 3 points 1 year ago (2 children)

anyone that tries to say star trek has "gone woke" or some stupid shit like that clearly isn't a fan of it and just trying to rile up stuff. I mean come on... how can someone say that and have watched the shows LOL

[–] pleasejustdie@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago (10 children)

Yeah, its not like Star Trek suddenly went woke, its been woke. First ever TV kiss between mixed races was between Kirk and Uhura. Scandalous.

It's literally like 80% of the show's concept. The idea was to hide morality plays behind wacky alien makeup.

[–] CarbonatedPastaSauce@lemmy.world 0 points 1 year ago (2 children)

That's actually a common misconception. Not to downplay the significance of what Shatner and Nichols pulled off to get around the various censors (ruining alternate takes and such), but many TV shows did it before Star Trek.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/First_interracial_kiss_on_television

[–] VindictiveJudge@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I think it was the first one that was both broadcast nationally in a primetime slot and where the actors were easily identifiable as having different ethnicities on a tiny TV screen. Would explain the misconception.

I think it certainly was the most noticeable of anything shown on American TV at that point. But the British had us beat by years.

[–] stiephelando@discuss.tchncs.de 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Shatner is on that list multiple times. That man had an agenda.

[–] Kushan@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago (2 children)

He likes his coffee how he likes his women.

[–] pleasejustdie@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago

easily within reach?

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[–] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)
[–] Crashumbc@lemmy.world 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Not to mention the first black woman officer and the first black/white kiss.

[–] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

the first black/white kiss.

...in a drama series. This was the first:

That's Lynn Fontanne kissing Sammy Davis, Jr. at the 1965 Emmys.

As far as the first interracial kiss, that does have a star trek connection- Desi kissing Lu in 1951.

On top of that, Shatner himsellf kissed France Nuyen on the Ed Sullivan show in 1958.

https://fakehistoryhunter.net/2019/09/11/not-the-first-interracial-kiss-on-tv/

[–] Crashumbc@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago

Specifically why I said black/white. and peck on the cheek isn't consider a "kiss" by most people. (although it probably caused a stir). This was also right in the middle of the black civil rights movement which made it that much more risky.

[–] dmMeYourNudes@lemmynsfw.com 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Kinda hard to be a bigot when your favorite show is about a egalitarian socialist utopia

[–] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago (2 children)

And yet it still happens. There are right-wing bigots who watch Star Trek for the pew pew space battles and ignore the rest, sad as that may be.

[–] RamblingPanda@lemmynsfw.com 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

They are not Trek fans, they are violence fans. They are not welcome.

I love Star Trek for the vision, the tech, the people and of course to hate Wesley. This is my utopia.

[–] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago

The funny thing is, unlike with most sci-fi, Starfleet usually only starts shooting as a last resort. They don't even notice that.

[–] Ziglin@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago

Then perhaps the qualification to be a Trekkie should be watching the original series. We'll loose the VFX loving pew pew people.

[–] Taleya@aussie.zone 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Hands up those old enough to remember the shitfest that erupted over Janeway (and/or Sisko)

[–] flicker@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I threw up the horns. It was nuts as a middle school girl, when Voyager first started airing, and everyone was so angry about Janeway and when I'd ask why they would turn red and shake their head, or change the topic.

[–] Crashumbc@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago

The good old days, when sexist, racist, homophobes at least kept their mouths shut... Now they'd give you a speech about how she should be in the galley :(

[–] captain_aggravated@sh.itjust.works 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I have a theory:

Star Trek fans were some of the earlier cosplayers. Trekkies were wearing Starfleet uniforms and Vulcan ears to conventions decades before the word "cosplay" was a thing. My father has a book called the Starfleet Technical Manual published in the 70's that is basically an official guide for fans to build screen accurate costumes and props from, including sewing patterns for the various tunics and wrist-length dresses and a page of color swatches, plus dimensional drawings of tricorders, phasers and communicators.

And the public at large in the 1970s wasn't ready for that yet.

[–] Infynis@midwest.social 1 points 1 year ago

I have that book! It's super cool. It's themed as a document made by the military about information on the Federation that leaked into the past.

There's also diagrams of space stations and ships, and small things, like how to properly decorate sleeves and badges for rank and division.

[–] afraid_of_zombies@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

The entire Dune novel fanbase is also pretty decent. I like hanging out with him.

Hey, thanks! You too!

[–] Semi_Hemi_Demigod@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

The Discworld fandom is another one you can't be in if you're an asshole because you clearly didn't understand the source material.

[–] LazerFX@sh.itjust.works 1 points 1 year ago

GNU PTerry. And I'm with you there.

[–] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago

SHUT UP WE ARE NOT THE NICEST FAN BASE I WILL FIGHT YOU

[–] Seraph@fedia.io 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

So you're saying Star Trek needs its own version of Jar Jar?

[–] buzz86us@lemmy.world 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)
[–] UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world -1 points 1 year ago

Star Trek is 40 lbs of pure columbian white sitting in a big pile on my desk.

Doctor Who is a dusty lump of crack I flushed out from behind the toilet that I'm hoping will last the weekend.

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