not associated with any one religion
Celtic pagans beg to differ I imagine
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not associated with any one religion
Celtic pagans beg to differ I imagine
Yeah I was a bit surprised at that line since I had always understood it to be a Celtic pagan symbol.
Can’t upset the Christians I guess -_-
It’s possible they meant their symbol and its use isn’t tied to any single belief. The symbol’s original meaning might be why they went out of the way to say so.
This symbol has been in religious use for a long ass time.
They're just rebranding it.
It has been in general use across loads of areas of Europe - not just Celtic ones, even accounting for how widespread Celtic cultures used to be - and also since thousands of years before Celtic cultures emerged as a distinguishable group. I don't think it'd be reasonable for any one group to claim ownership of it at this point
As far as I remember, it represents the grandma, the mother and the daughter. Some type of cult to woman and generations. It was associated with Celtics and reprieved by Christian religions, specially because introduces importance to matriarchs.
Ireland has a sizeable Catholic population, and Catholicism has a habit of subsuming local pagan traditions and gods and reworking them as their own.
Ah yes, "pagan", that famously singular religion.
Celtic Paganism does in fact refer to a particular pagan religion and set of beliefs/roots of those beliefs.
Paganism is incredibly diverse, I will give you that. "Pagan" is more of an umbrella term for many different beliefs with some common elements.
But christianity for example is also an umbrella term - you have catholicism (whis then has the many different orders and stuff under it), evanjelical christianity (with its many denominations) and orthodox church (which may or may not have different groups under it, I don't really know). And even two different people within one denomination of the larger group of christianity may hold a slightly different set of beliefs.
Paganism is just a larger umbrella. I also went with Celtic paganism as it narrows it down a little more, that's why I went for that rather than simply saying "paganism".
Now I get what the hospital tried to go for. But saying it is not tied to a religion is I think a little unfortunate.
Really close, but off by one part: paganism is not an inclusive term. It's an exclusive term. Rather than groups (originally) agreeing they are pagans, Christians decided anything not Christian is pagan. The modern meaning of pagan is euro-centric because that's where Christianity took hold. The Norse and the Celtic and the Baltic and the Germanic "pagans" likely would not see themselves as on the same side of the argument against Christians. Grouping pagans together is like grouping barbarians together across the world. Literally, because barbarian is also a derogatory term. (bar-bar was the racist interpretation of foreign language by the Greeks and then Romans)
The meaning is shifted now because of 2000 years of Christian erasure. So sure, it might now be that Pagan is an equivalent type of term as Christian, covering many groups that identify themselves as their parent term, but that's not the historical context. That makes a difference when talking about the actual history.
You are right about that. But I didn't talk about history and how it effectively was deragotary term, as didn't find it relevant in this context.
"Pagan" became to mean non-christian, but afaik originally it meant "person from the countryside" - lat. paganos I believe (also see: heathen - person from the heath) - so people living in vilages and such, who took longer to convert from the old faith.
Anyway, as other commenter said somewhere here, these religions usually didn't have names historically that we know of. It was simply the religion to the people. Moreover, the religion was not centralized. The various tribes, even villages could have differences and their local gods that were worshipped. So yeah, christians came up with the umbrela term and yeah, it was developed as an insult basically. But it's what we have as a name for these religions.
I didn't find it relevant as modern day pagans mostly embraced the term and I don't think it holds same negative conotations as it did in the past.
The Celtic Triskele! My mom had a bunch of these in her jewelry and house decorations. We always honored it as a symbol for the maiden, mother, and crone.
If you visit Boyne Valley, one of the cultural highlights in ‘Ireland’s Ancient East’, you're likely to find the Celtic Triskele symbol at the entrance of the 5,000-year-old Newgrange Passage Tomb. It dates back to the Neolithic era, and boasts true beauty in a serene location. However, that's not the only place it can be found.
Markings and artifacts have been located in various ancient sites, which also show us that the Celtic Triskele became popular with the Celtic culture from 500 B.C. onwards. These artifacts can be discovered in Ireland, as well as Europe, and across America.
The Celtic Triskele was a symbol that had various meanings for the early Pagans. One of them was linked to the sun, triadic Gods, and the three domains of land, sea, and sky. As we mentioned above, the Triple Spiral was also believed to represent the cycles of life, as well as the Triple Goddess -the maiden, mother, and wise woman.
I got to see that in person! Newgrange is fascinating.
I know folks here are arguing about Celtic pagan culture but the spirals actually come from neolithic peoples from 5,000 years ago that we know very little about. They predate the Celts and the Picts and even the pyramid builders of ancient Egypt. We don't know their language, religion, or much of anything except that they were pretty good engineers, moved enormous stones tens or hundreds of kilometers, and had a thing for spiral motifs!
Newgrange is essentially my holy place, and I hope to see it one day. Mythology or not, to stand where the Tuatha De Danaan are said to have inhabited and are now laid to rest would be otherworldly.
They're not my current brand of spirituality, but they set me on the path long ago.
Ran by air benders?
I thought water benders were more likely to be healers.
Looks like the Airbender symbol.
Triskelion/trisquel and I really wonder why they appropriate and add bullshit meaning to a religious symbol. That's really weird.
I'd say - since that is an Irish hospital and a Celtic symbol - that they knew where they took the symbol from, but wanted to be inclusive of other belief systems, which is the right thing to do when talking about hospice care. Why invent everything from scratch if you don't have to?
oh cool it's a https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Triskelion
I love that there's a wiki page to what amounts to humanities random doodle.
The hospitals I have been in recently in the US use a purple butterfly for the same purpose...it's really sad to see when walking around.
I learned that in children's hospital's, the symbol is a butterfly. I could never look at a butterfly quite the same way after that.
A triskel... odd choice
Kinky. Someone should probably have googled who else have adopted a triskelion as their symbol.
Ill bet 100 quatludes they did not.
isn't this Brigid's symbol?
That woild be St Brigid's cross https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Brigid%27s_cross
Ah, thank you. For some reason I had the goddess Brigid associated with the triskele and maiden/mother/crone but there's so much overlap nowadays between goddess and saint that it's hard to find reliable sources on what was who.
Could just use F
end of life symbol. is this the windows 10 logo?